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Re: TNA's lack of star problem

TNA's lack of star power is simply due to its inept writing. Lagana-Pritchard have proven to be horrible at writing whole shows. It almost feels like they just don't care.

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Re: TNA's lack of stars problem

also, TNA has -

Kurt Angle
Jeff Hardy
Sting
Bully Ray
AJ Styles
Mr. Anderson
Austin Aries
Rob Van Dam
Jeff Jarrett
Hulk Hogan
Samoa Joe

They have tons of big stars that they book into oblivion on a weekly basis

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Re: TNA's lack of stars problem

Aries well booked quest for the world title as a babyface did jack shit in the ratings.

The claire lynch saga and now hogan/ray gave impact a 1.3, so the writing needs to be shittier not the other way.



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Re: TNA's lack of stars problem

Ok. I see that a lot of people here are saying TNA has "stars" No one on TNA's roster is that franchise level guy. I'm not talking about the Dwayne Wade level guy I'm talking the Lebron James level guy. Yes TNA has plenty of "stars" but I'm talking Rock, Austin level stars not Foley level stars, does that make any sense.


Someone mention picking up CM Punk. I'm not sure how that helps. Sure, he can cut a controversial promo and give a great match but Punk isn't that franchise level guy
Someone mentioned their hasn't been a breakout star since Brock Lesnar and then said they don't count Cena because that was forced. I hate Cena's popeye goody to shoes character and have wanted him to turn heel for years now but, how can you discount him as the face of wwe (not saying you think he is the right choice) at the current moment. Maybe, TNA needs to find a guy and force him on fans maybe that will get them that guy.

So who is the guy I think should be the face of TNA? I don't know but, the protype is around the size and shape of a Randy Orton/Rocky Maivia, they can put on a credible match (notice I didn't say good), they are traditionaly handsome, can talk, and have great people skills.
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Re: TNA's lack of star problem

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To be fair, there hasn't been a huge breakout star since Brock Lesnar. I don't count Cena since that was forced. Overall I'd say iMPACT's roster is better than the big guys up north. People bash G.Bischoff, but you know Bischoff when you see him. Everyone stands out (even if they suck) What they need to focus on is brand recognition. Once that happens all the stars will align.
But Cena wasn't forced. Cena came up with people liking him. It's that after people didn't take too kindly to him. You could even argue that Miz may even be on that list tbh.

We know Garrett cause we watch the show. Garrett hasn't been anywhere promoting the product other than on the product. To a non-wrestling fan, he's nobody. I doubt anyone even knows he's Eric's son unless you watched the product.

In fact, you could argue Punk.

AJ's name was always being dropped as that guy from TNA. He's there...it's just he's...."tired" these days. I don't remember the last time someone was like "Oh, that AJ match was amazing - you need to see it".
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Re: TNA's lack of stars problem

The problem does not lie with poor writing or poor story lines or whatever, it lies with the fact that TNA has very little to no brand recognition. When the most recognizable name ever in pro wrestling Hulk Hogan can't attract people, how can you ever expect to get someone like Austin Aries or Magnus to do it? You can push those guys to the moon and have the greatest writing ever behind them but if no one's watching, does it really matter? TNA needs to worry about building up their fan base for now and then start worrying about their next star because they have plenty of talent for right now, just nobody to watch them.

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The problem does not lie with poor writing or poor story lines or whatever, it lies with the fact that TNA has very little to no brand recognition. When the most recognizable name ever in pro wrestling Hulk Hogan can't attract people, how can you ever expect to get someone like Austin Aries or Magnus to do it? You can push those guys to the moon and have the greatest writing ever behind them but if no one's watching, does it really matter? TNA needs to worry about building up their fan base for now and then start worrying about their next star because they have plenty of talent for right now, just nobody to watch them.
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The problem does not lie with poor writing or poor story lines or whatever, it lies with the fact that TNA has very little to no brand recognition. When the most recognizable name ever in pro wrestling Hulk Hogan can't attract people, how can you ever expect to get someone like Austin Aries or Magnus to do it? You can push those guys to the moon and have the greatest writing ever behind them but if no one's watching, does it really matter? TNA needs to worry about building up their fan base for now and then start worrying about their next star because they have plenty of talent for right now, just nobody to watch them.
Well made point but,

Interesting is it the brand that gets people over or the the stars that make the brand. I think you can argue both sides here. Example, UFC isn't about stars its about the brand and UFC is a huge brand of MMA while Boxing does better PPV numbers than UFC when Pacquiao or Mayweather is involved so, Boxing is about the stars. I see both sides of this one.
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Re: TNA's lack of stars problem

But to build a fanbase, you need to give people reasons to watch the product, hence treating certain guys like they're something (and not just anyone..ala Garrett). So you're right, but there's also two sides to it.
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Well made point but,

Interesting is it the brand that gets people over or the the stars that make the brand. I think you can argue both sides here. Example, UFC isn't about stars its about the brand and UFC is a huge brand of MMA while Boxing does better PPV numbers than UFC when Pacquiao or Mayweather is involved so, Boxing is about the stars. I see both sides of this one.
Pacquiao or Mayweather did not create boxing though. Sure they help, sure they are arguably the biggest stars in that sport but they alone did not make the brand. They did not take boxing and suddenly turn it in to a household name, that happened over years and years with the help of many stars. Not trying to take away from what they've been able to do, just saying that no one person can suddenly take a brand and make it a house hold name. The only person who came close was Hulk Hogan in his youth with the WWF/E. Having stars helps, it helps a lot but eventually those stars grow old, get hurt, or people grow tired of them and they'll need to be replaced. That process is made a lot smoother by having an established brand already in place.

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