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01-07-2013, 02:50 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by joeisgonnakillyou
I really don't want to see MMA in pro wrestling, joe vs angle was good for a one time thing but that's it.
Also, blood is a gimmick... solid booking with good wrestling is enough, no need for a long ass text to explain this.
Keep trying to innovate with new concepts and give us rastling with compelling stories.
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You dont want to see MMA in Pro Wrestling. The Ankle Lock, everything the WWE did w/ Shamrock and now Lesnar. What TNA did with Joe vs. Angle, Tito, Lashley, and now King Mo is all MMA related.
Swagger, Undertaker, Del Rio, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan all incorporated the MMA into their game.
Its the natural progression in wrestling because the "sports" are so similar.
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01-07-2013, 06:15 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by HerbUWF
Does TNA need fixing? Makes money right? All over the world, no? Seems like if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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TNA dont make money. If you lose more than you bring in that doesnt mean you are making money. 2012 has been a year they have got rid of several wrestlers, a writer that was on big money and rearranged the contract structure. In 2011 Dixie's mother took charge of TNA's finances. They are desperately trying to cut costs.
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01-07-2013, 06:22 PM
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Little Poppa Pump
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by vanboxmeer
Christopher Daniels: World Champion.
Sure they'll still draw the same numbers on PPV and TV, but the show would be far more entertaining.
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Lol, hell fucking no.
With regards to drawing the same numbers. People want a good product. Nobody wants a horrible fucking show with "OMG TH DRAWWWZZZZ LIKE HULKKK HOGAANN!!!!", people prefer a good product. They see something as awesome as Christopher fucking Daniels, people will want to tune in.
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Because no straight grown men actually take time to analyze staged combat between two half-naked men.
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01-07-2013, 06:31 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater
With regards to drawing the same numbers. People want a good product. Nobody wants a horrible fucking show with "OMG TH DRAWWWZZZZ LIKE HULKKK HOGAANN!!!!", people prefer a good product. They see something as awesome as Christopher fucking Daniels, people will want to tune in.
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Well why aren't they tuning in now then? Jeff Hardy is by far the biggest star in TNA. If you go on the road you cant keep his shirts on the shelf. Your user name suggests you are oblivious to that. But its the same thing in all aspects of business. People want to see stars. Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus are big names. That doesnt make them the best singers but they draw money. Wrestling is the same. Its all about interaction with the audience at home.
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01-07-2013, 06:34 PM
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Little Poppa Pump
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Power
Well why aren't they tuning in now then? Jeff Hardy is by far the biggest star in TNA. If you go on the road you cant keep his shirts on the shelf. Your user name suggests you are oblivious to that. But its the same thing in all aspects of business. People want to see stars. Justin Beiber and Miley Cyrus are big names. That doesnt make them the best singers but they draw money. Wrestling is the same. Its all about interaction with the audience at home.
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Lol, people don't want to watch Jeff Hardy anymore, the fans in the IZ like him, sure, but that's irrelevant. He doesn't need to be WHC to sell merch.
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Because no straight grown men actually take time to analyze staged combat between two half-naked men.
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01-07-2013, 06:44 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater
Lol, people don't want to watch Jeff Hardy anymore, the fans in the IZ like him, sure, but that's irrelevant. He doesn't need to be WHC to sell merch.
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You give the belt to your top star to heighten the perception than TNA isn't some southern indy fed lucky enough to be on TV. Its not that people dont watch Jeff Hardy anymore. Its that TNA dont have a platform to exploit what he brings to them. TNA has Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam and they cant even draw 1000 people at house shows. That to me shows its not the wrestlers fault. Its the promotions. At least you send the fans home happy when they see a real star hold the belt at house shows.
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01-08-2013, 01:57 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Power
You give the belt to your top star to heighten the perception than TNA isn't some southern indy fed lucky enough to be on TV. Its not that people dont watch Jeff Hardy anymore. Its that TNA dont have a platform to exploit what he brings to them. TNA has Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam and they cant even draw 1000 people at house shows. That to me shows its not the wrestlers fault. Its the promotions. At least you send the fans home happy when they see a real star hold the belt at house shows.
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TNA needs to do two things to help attendance at house shows.
1. Advertise specific shows to local markets.
2. Have a segment on Impact or a bottom scroll like ESPN has for scores that mentions upcoming shows.
3. Develop TNA Street Teams like ECW used to have
4. When you have a show in Chicago - talent should be in and out of the city 2 weeks prior for radio apperances, autograph signings, and local TV shows.
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01-08-2013, 02:55 PM
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Acknowledged by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Power
TNA dont make money. If you lose more than you bring in that doesnt mean you are making money. 2012 has been a year they have got rid of several wrestlers, a writer that was on big money and rearranged the contract structure. In 2011 Dixie's mother took charge of TNA's finances. They are desperately trying to cut costs.
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Not exactly Mr Reliability but I seem to remember that one of Steiner's (many) beefs with the company was that they were cutting corners everywhere, even on catering. I seem to remember how he said that the big food spreads he was used to was gone and he was pissed off about eating off paper plates or something.
If they won't splash out on stuff that costs pennies, they aren't going to stump up for a major marketing / advertising campaign.
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01-08-2013, 03:33 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Not exactly Mr Reliability but I seem to remember that one of Steiner's (many) beefs with the company was that they were cutting corners everywhere, even on catering. I seem to remember how he said that the big food spreads he was used to was gone and he was pissed off about eating off paper plates or something.
If they won't splash out on stuff that costs pennies, they aren't going to stump up for a major marketing / advertising campaign.
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Catering probably costs TNA anywhere from $45K a year to $200K. Problem with catering is you dont get a return on your investment like you do with advertising.
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01-08-2013, 03:46 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: How would you fix TNA
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Originally Posted by IRISHwhip78
Catering probably costs TNA anywhere from $45K a year to $200K. Problem with catering is you dont get a return on your investment like you do with advertising.
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Catering sots $200,000 a year? What the fuck?
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