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Old 01-07-2013, 06:53 AM   #21 (permalink)
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1. I don't care what they call the company or what name they slap on the televised show. I'm perfectly fine with what they already have, but since the name recognition value really isn't much (let's be honest) if they want to change and start fresh that's fine too.

2. TNA has, in the past, loaded up on known talents who were looking for an easier schedule or an ego trip back from retirement. Out of what remains of that lot, at least half of them should probably go at this point. If they can't keep up in the ring and/or contribute entertaining segments, then it's time for goodbyes.

3. Taz. I don't think there's much I need to say here.

4. When a fun crowd wanders into the IZ, the show comes alive. I don't know, sometimes it seems like a frat party dropped by for the hell of it and proceed to make the night awesome by being crazy enthusiastic (and likely more than a bit drunk/high). Other times, it's something even more deadly than the WWE daycare nights that seem to pop up more and more often. Would filming on the road solve this? Probably not. Why? Well, for one thing, the venues. People here complain that the IZ looks second-rate on television. How do you think bingo hall from middle-of-nowhere or 1,500 seat small city stadium is going to look? There's not the budget, desire to invest or willing market – that I'm aware of – for them to bounce from one big centre with a spiffy (but not too big) venue for them to the next every week.

I don't find the IZ looks bush league, and I wouldn't care about them performing in random place from week to week either, but I watch indy stuff and I don't think that's representative of the wider audience they're looking for. And don't forget that the much larger WWE has a crowd problem much of the time too, and they're doing all the things folks keep suggesting.

5. The writing. The booking. *sigh*

Look, some things they're doing really well. I wouldn't be watching if I thought the company was operating as a complete disaster. I enjoyed a lot of what they did in 2012. I also detested a fair share of it too. The one big issue, as I see it, is a weird inability to know when to keep going as is versus when to speed things along. It doesn't always happen; Bobby Roode's reign as champion was handled wonderfully. But then we have the rushed rise and demise of Aries' championship run – when he was very popular and over with the belt – and the woeful, slow death of Aces&8s.

Aries is doing great as a heel again. He's terrific at it, but that's not the point. Face/heel turns still happen too often and without enough logic in TNA, plus the guy should not have had to step aside for Hardy so quickly.

(Want to pause and mention that Hardy has exceeded my expectations of late and I've no problem with him in the role he's got now. And I adore the inner monologues. Please let those continue. They're gold.)

Now, back to the bad stuff. The worst of the bad. The bad, sad, horrible Aces&8s mess. Guys, TNA folk, if you're lurking in these parts again, this is NOT how you book an invading stable unless you want them to look like a joke, and I don't think that was the plan. Nobody signs talent to bring them in as comedy unless they really are comedy acts, and that's not the case here. There's no point in having anyone cut what's intended as a dramatic promo in ring if he's going to be lumped into a gang of goofs who lose matches all the time and hang out partying in a broom closet. How did this happen? Aces&8s started out pretty cool. A masked group of wrestlers who felt overlooked/unappreciated and decided to do something about it by making themselves impossible to ignore. Now there's no direction, very little progress and not much in the way of character development going on.

6. Media presentation. Let's start with the web site. As a designer, that thing makes me cry. A total overhaul is much needed. Then there's the television production. Unlike a lot of people here, I'm not bothered by it. Yes, I know there are far too many gaffs for a professional crew but I'm not that picky. Still, I'd like to point out that I've done camera work for live events (and edited footage for others) and even companies that rely on volunteers can sometimes be less sloppy. Just putting that out there.

7. Who do I think they should hire? I've no suggestions, since I haven't a clue what they have planned for 2013 and who would slot into the roles that need filling. There's a rather large roster right now, so even though there are people I'd love to see brought in, I do not want them there with nothing to do. One suggestion I would make is...they should hire me! I've no idea what I'd do but hey, I'm sure I'd be about as useful as some of the folks hanging out in the IZ.

All that incredible amount of wordage behind me, I do want to toss a bit of praise out. The wrestling talent on TNA have all done a fantastic job in the past twelve months. I can't say enough good things about Chris Daniels, Kaz, Bully, Aries and Roode. Hogan has been terrific in his non-wrestling role, AJ is a champ in the ring, ODB makes me laugh, Zema Ion has improved immensely, the Robbies are funny, Tessmacher is finally starting to look like she has potential...and I know I’ve forgotten other folks who’ve been awesome.
Well said. I agree with virtually all of this.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Continue doing what they were doing for the majority of 2012.

TNA has fucked up a lot in the past and has a reputation for being WWE Lite filled with stupid gimmicks. This reputation is not going to disappear over night, continue putting on good shows with consistent storytelling and a great in ring product (like the majority of 2012 was) and ratings/buy rates/attendances will all slowly increase over time.

Marketing does need to improve a lot, they are putting on a good product but no one knows about it

The roster is solid, probably the most solid it's been for a very long time with only a few bits of deadwood. Add in a few more members in certain places (tag teams/X Division) and I'd be happy.

I hate this idea that TNA needs "fixing", the company is fine the way it is, they are consistently putting out the best weekly wrestling shows and the PPVs have been solid to great for the last 12 months. For every bad storyline (Aces and Eights/Claire Lynch) there are numerous great story lines (BFG Series/Roode's Reign/Rise of Aries/Bully Ray/Kaz and Daniels)
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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TNA would need a lot of investment and someone with more patience than a saint to rebuild the damage they have done to their perception over the years. TNA should rent a small 1000 seat building somewhere in Flordia and run there. The acoustics in the Impact Zone are terrible and the look of it is a detriment to the product. People keep saying "TNA need to market and promote more" but you need sponsors and big money to do that. And TNA simply dont have it. They had money in around 2008-2009 and 2010 when Spike would invest in them but they chose to spend it on the likes of Mr Anderson and other WWE wrestlers who made no difference.

The damage has been done by the looks of it. TNA's viewership has remained around the same level since 2006. Nobody new wants to watch and TNA has killed off major revenue streams. No video game company wants to touch them and their PPV business is non-existent. I have no idea how they would even begin to rebuild their brand.

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Old 01-07-2013, 10:09 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Christopher Daniels: World Champion.

Sure they'll still draw the same numbers on PPV and TV, but the show would be far more entertaining.
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1. Pick a Name TNA or Impact Wrestling. You need to have a brand an invest in it. The dual names causes brand confusion. I like Impact Wrestling.

2. Stop doing Sports Entertainment and do Wrestling. Leave the Sports Entertainment to Vince. You should model yourself after ECW, the NWA circa 1986, and the MMA.

3. Infuse MMA into the products - that includes the OP's idea of weight divisions, time limits, fighting teams and clubs, entourage.

Teams & Fight Clubs
Angle's - The Gold Standard
Aries - The Shark Club
Roode - Maple Leaf Wrestling
DH Smart - The Hart Dungeon
Samoa Joe - Tap or Snap
Camp Dudley
Aces & Eights

4. New Show Set (I'd just go with a old New Japan Pro Wrestling Set Up)

5. As much as I'd like TNA/Impact the Impact Zone. The lack of travel is a huge factor why so many guys are in TNA. However if they could pull off what NXT has they should do it.

6. Everything the WWE misses out on you should promote.
- Actual Wrestling
- Tag Teams
- Weight Divisions
- Womens Wrestling
- Blood
- TNA (Playboy)
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #26 (permalink)
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1. Pick a Name TNA or Impact Wrestling. You need to have a brand an invest in it. The dual names causes brand confusion. I like Impact Wrestling.

2. Stop doing Sports Entertainment and do Wrestling. Leave the Sports Entertainment to Vince. You should model yourself after ECW, the NWA circa 1986, and the MMA.

3. Infuse MMA into the products - that includes the OP's idea of weight divisions, time limits, fighting teams and clubs, entourage.

Teams & Fight Clubs
Angle's - The Gold Standard
Aries - The Shark Club
Roode - Maple Leaf Wrestling
DH Smart - The Hart Dungeon
Samoa Joe - Tap or Snap
Camp Dudley
Aces & Eights

4. New Show Set (I'd just go with a old New Japan Pro Wrestling Set Up)

5. As much as I'd like TNA/Impact the Impact Zone. The lack of travel is a huge factor why so many guys are in TNA. However if they could pull off what NXT has they should do it.

6. Everything the WWE misses out on you should promote.
- Actual Wrestling
- Tag Teams
- Weight Divisions
- Womens Wrestling
- Blood
- TNA (Playboy)

At this point they are getting away with it. Sooner or later having the website be called Impact wrestling yet its still some what TNA. Is going to hurt them.They cant even expand to another show. So they have another weekly show called "Cross the Line" by what TNA ? yet the website is called impact wrestling. That would just be so stupid.They clearly are making the name change but its a transition as jeff said

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At this point they are getting away with it. Sooner or later having the website be called Impact wrestling yet its still some what TNA. Is going to hurt them.They cant even expand to another show. So they have another weekly show called "Cross the Line" by what TNA ? yet the website is called impact wrestling. That would just be so stupid.They clearly are making the name change but its a transition as jeff said
Thing is it shouldnt be a long drawn out transition.

Its a name change... WWF to WWE.

Instead they're taking the NWA-WCW route

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I really don't want to see MMA in pro wrestling, joe vs angle was good for a one time thing but that's it.
Also, blood is a gimmick... solid booking with good wrestling is enough, no need for a long ass text to explain this.
Keep trying to innovate with new concepts and give us rastling with compelling stories.
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Thing is it shouldnt be a long drawn out transition.

Its a name change... WWF to WWE.

Instead they're taking the NWA-WCW route
I think sometime in 2013 is enough time to finalize the deal. I undersatnd.Dude its a different time.Wrestling is barley relevant right now. It will be big again down the road.

TNA is still hardly known.Every person i know has never heard of it unless i tell them. Plus when i do they make fun of the name. They spent so much time building the TNA name and now they want to build the Impact Wrestling name.Plus i noticed at the end of the first impact wrestling episode of 2013.The credits said TNA wrestling production with IMPACT wrestling under that. Production is a sign that they will keep that name for the parent name for brands like Impact Wrestling and King ka ring.So it will only show up at the end credits. Thats a good idea.So dixie can keep creating more ventures.
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Does TNA need fixing? Makes money right? All over the world, no? Seems like if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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