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Old 11-04-2012, 05:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was recapping past TP main-events and i just remembered 2007, when Hall no showed. Joe was asked to present and push Young as the replacement but instead he just put his heart out and attacked Hall (and also Nash).

In TNA it seems the majority of the roster doesn't really understand what TNA is about. I believe they either wrestler for the paycheck or their minds are in the wwe. When you compare to ROH (for example), you see a lot of athletes talking with passion about the product, but that's just not the case with TNA.

My point of view, TNA made a huge mistake over the years in bringing to many consolidated talents from major promotion (wwe, wcw, ecw) that they've lost their own identity.

My question is, how can TNA create in their own talent, the sense of passion and belonging for the company?
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Build the company more around AJ Styles, he has TNA running through his blood.
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Build the company more around AJ Styles, he has TNA running through his blood.
With his atrocious mic skills? No thanks.
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I was recapping past TP main-events and i just remembered 2007, when Hall no showed. Joe was asked to present and push Young as the replacement but instead he just put his heart out and attacked Hall (and also Nash).

In TNA it seems the majority of the roster doesn't really understand what TNA is about. I believe they either wrestler for the paycheck or their minds are in the wwe. When you compare to ROH (for example), you see a lot of athletes talking with passion about the product, but that's just not the case with TNA.

My point of view, TNA made a huge mistake over the years in bringing to many consolidated talents from major promotion (wwe, wcw, ecw) that they've lost their own identity.

My question is, how can TNA create in their own talent, the sense of passion and belonging for the company?
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well it was going well until Hogan and bischoff arrived and basically killed the x-devision and all the younger guys and brought in old people who no one wanted to see anymore:/ TNA had there own talent and originality back in 2005/08
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Warning: This is a cool story, bro. Contains extreme markness. May not even relate to the OP's original question.
One of the main attractions that lead me to TNA was the mixture between old and new stars. I remember way back when I stumbled upon their website and was excited to see some of my favorite guys from WWF like, Road Dogg (BG James), Mr. Ass (The Outlaw), Konan, Jeff Jarrett, Rhyno, and X-Pac (Syxx-Pac).

This lead me to look up their schedule and watch their show on the Fox Sports Network. I tuned in for a couple of weeks. What I loved about it was the high-flying and exciting matches they had. I loved seeing my old favorites battling with guys I'd never seen before, whom were becoming my new favorites. I remember 'The Fallen Angel' Christopher Daniels impressing me a lot. I loved his look and the B.M.E. Dusty Rhodes, Raven, Jarrett all kept me watching the program on and off. I felt as guys like this never got a fair chance to give their all and truly shine in WWF.

Eventually, for some reason I don't remember, I stopped watching. I'd watch occasionally to see the Motor City Machine Guns or L.A.X., but I started to watch WWE more and becoming a fanboy. I'd read other fanboy's negative criticisms about TNA, and blindly agree. TNA only took WWE-rejects, TNA is a retirement home for the old wrestlers, TNA is full of spot monkeys, TNAwful has shit booking, they'll never compete with the almighty WWE, etc. That was me. Until Hogan signed with TNA and I marked.

I gave TNA another chance. I was still in critical WWE-mark zone, so I nitpicked at every mistake that TNA made, but WWE's now PG change of programming kept me tuning into TNA. I began to like the clusterfu*kness of TNA. I liked seeing the knockouts in skimpy clothing calling each other sluts more than John Cena putting on practically the same match every Raw/PPV.

I was excited for January 4th because I wanted to see TNA succeed, but once again it made mistakes. I stopped watching wrestling permanently a while after that. After a couple of months I watched both TNA and WWE to see what if any of them would interest me. TNA had Beer Money/MCMG feud that was awesome, WWE (I don't remember) probably had something John Cena related.

At this point I didn't even mind John Cena. I was actually a fan because I could see that he loves what he does and works very hard for his company. I also realized that guys like the MCMG/Beer Money had the same passion and love for their company and the business, but guys like them have to work twice as hard. Everyone in TNA has to work twice as hard and guys like Sting, Kurt Angle, Team 3D have to work twice as hard for their company than WWE workers do.

TNA is the underdog. From Sting to Taeler Hendrix, they want their company to be as big and as an entertaining experience as possible. They've made mistakes in the past, and they'll probably mistakes in the future, but I like seeing TNA go through their mistakes and learn to be a better more enjoyable product.

In closing, I believe guys like Bully, Hogan, Aries, Roode, all belong in the company and add a certain uniqueness.

TL;DR was big WWE mark, am now big TNA mark, enjoy seeing mix of old and new stars in TNA
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well it was going well until Hogan and bischoff arrived and basically killed the x-devision and all the younger guys and brought in old people who no one wanted to see anymore:/ TNA had there own talent and originality back in 2005/08
Wrong on all counts.
1. X Division had already been de-pushed and buried by 07.
2. TNA was still getting as many ex-WWE/WCW/ECW guys even in its early years. It took 3 years for a legit TNA guy to hold the World Title(Styles in 2005 was that last til Joe in 07)(Not that I'm complaining)
Most of TNA's problems were there before Hogan/Bischoff came in.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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TNA is the underdog. From Sting to Taeler Hendrix, they want their company to be as big and as an entertaining experience as possible. They've made mistakes in the past, and they'll probably mistakes in the future, but I like seeing TNA go through their mistakes and learn to be a better more enjoyable product.

In closing, I believe guys like Bully, Hogan, Aries, Roode, all belong in the company and add a certain uniqueness.
Of course Sting, Aries, Roode belong to TNA and there are talents that legitimately work hard to see TNA grow. I also understand that for names like AJ, Joe, Roode, Storm, etc etc surviving TNA booking wasn't easy. But still, you read interviews of some wrestlers and it's just disappointing to see how little they have TNA in consideration and how fast they would jump ship.
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