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Ziggler needs to call Hardy asap and ask him about his hair regime.

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I bet if Hardy was a good technical wrestler, smarks would be all over his dick. LOOK AT HIM WORK THE LEG.

Hypocrites.

That's pretty much a given or if he didn't graduate from the Warrior School of Promos. If Hardy was still the same weirdo that still got down with the drugs, still got arrested and still got fucked up at VR BUT was a technical gawd or had mic skills, all would be forgiven....because he does them suplexes and everything he says is gold and epic.









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So people wanted Aries to win because they hate Hardy? But if Aries won, they wouldn't mind the BFG series being a joke? Alrighty then.
I don't get this reasoning... since when does a tournament for number 1 contender get buried when a champion beats that contender? It's like people crying when Royal Rumble winner loses. It shouldn't be an automatic lock... that actually makes it more of a joke. MITB is the only one where not winning more would be strange given the advantage the contract gives you. This gives you NO advantage.

As to Hardy winning... again, just like at No Surrender... it's the super babyface bullshit. I'm fine with Hardy winning. I'm just tired of the "o my god the deck is stacked..... HE DID IT HE DID IT EPIC COMEBACK" shit. It's old, it's stale, and it really doesn't work anymore.

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Aries was the star of the night IMO, unbelieveable performance.
I'd give it to Aries, Roode or even Storm who was brillaint donning the crimson mask. They all were 'on' tonight. The tag match had a lot of crazy action in it too. AJ and Kaz had a couple brutal bumps in that one.


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this whole concept of a face getting his ass kicked and making a comeback isnt just old, its ancient

it predates wrestling and is almost as old as civilisation. its the most classical story around

hell, think back to the last action or drama movie you saw, chances are it matched that style exactly. think Dark Knight rises.

its perfect, i cant believe people have a problem with that. i blame vince russo and the 90s

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No, Hardy should have not won BFG & whomever won it that wasn't Hardy should have won tonight.
So people are mad because the devil won the series and everyone would be completely okay if anyone else won the BFG series and defeated Aries? Alrighty then.









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post #2166 of 2518 (permalink) Old 10-14-2012, 11:34 PM
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Great PPV. Marks will be marks.

I really wish TNA had the finances to go on the road full time. That would put them over the hump easily. They need to get Bill Gates interested in TNA.
It's not even a matter of marks being marks. It's a matter of the company needs to develop their own stars and not keep resorting to Jeff Hardy's when things aren't working Hardy will continue to sell merch even without the merch but this would have showed that TNA had faith in Hardy to lead them into the future. Sure, you can argue ratings for iMPACT has went down with Aries being champ but RAW ratings have went down with Punk being champion but they're not jumping the gun to put the title on Cena because they believe in Punk. I'm not even a WWE fan loathe the company but they got the right idea you can't expect to develop stars and jump the gun right back to the big name because it isn't working.
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So people are mad because the devil won the series and everyone would be completely okay if anyone else won the BFG series and defeated Aries? Alrighty then.
I think a lot of people just aren't firm believers in giving someone a second chance. Or they think that Hardy will just burn TNA & leave when he contract runs out anyway. I don't have a problem with Hardy as the champ. I think he's one of the best options they have, honestly. I do think this PPV should have been built around both Roode/Storm & the Aces and Eights reveal.
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what epic comeback? I saw aries and hardy beating the living shit out of each other and hardy won tonight.



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It's not even a matter of marks being marks. It's a matter of the company needs to develop their own stars and not keep resorting to Jeff Hardy's when things aren't working Hardy will continue to sell merch even without the merch but this would have showed that TNA had faith in Hardy to lead them into the future. Sure, you can argue ratings for iMPACT has went down with Aries being champ but RAW ratings have went down with Punk being champion but they're not jumping the gun to put the title on Cena because they believe in Punk. I'm not even a WWE fan loathe the company but they got the right idea you can't expect to develop stars and jump the gun right back to the big name because it isn't working.
They don't believe in Punk. They're just waiting for the Rumble.
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You are right, every BFGS winner and every RR winner should go on to win the title. Heck why even have the title match since we know who will win ?

It is shit booking because there was NO HEAT on Aries as the heel because the heel turn happened on the go home show. If the heel turn occured 3-4 weeks ago they could have put good heat on Aries and built up to the switch here. Given what they did here a dirty or controversial finish in Aries favor tonight throws heat on him and builds to the switch at TP.

And no worries about the crowd in the IZ for a Hardy title win because he is always over in the IZ. They'd have popped for it.
I never said every winner should win the title.

You have to understand, BFG is still relatively new. Make no sense to have the winner lose the title match so early in it's development. And is it Jeff's fault that there was no heat on Aries?

The hatred for Hardy is what fuels the complaining over him winning the title. Because everything wrong with the match and buildup, people want to blame Hardy for it. Fact is, he deserved the title. Now, this makes things interesting for a rematch and full blown heel turn from Aries.

It's more to the bigger picture. Doesn't need to be a clear cut storyline for the original match, especially when you'll likely do it 1-2 more times at the next PPV's, so after the first match is when the storyline should be developed, with Aries being pissed at losing the title to a man that has let the company down once.




Let me ask you this: What are you more mad about, the build up of the match or the winner of the match?
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