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Old 10-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Aries/Hardy will be better than the hype. Both guys are really hitting their stride now, this match will be great.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:46 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Well when you were just a "dancer" on ECW in WWE, never wrestled, came in a secretary, then a wrestler for little more than a year, and just not hit stardom, it's hard to be widely popular. Like I said before, it's refreshing that we don't have 4 KOs thrown in and just a regular singles match with actual build. It's called advertising.
These 4 Ways were both not what I would consider good, but they had build. Maybe even more (the 2010 one) than Tara vs. Tess. They could have given this one a stipulation or something to make it more interesting. Come one, it's a simple rematch of a bad match from the last B-PPV. It's not an Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim singles match and it's not an Mickie James vs. Tara singles match. It's a Tessmacher singles match. The girl that never had a good match in her career and probably will never have one.

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It's not like Kevin Sullivan(TNA Producer) goes up to Prichard or Lagana or Conway and say, "Everyone in this video is mandatory to be here or fans will want refunds". And I think fans are smart enough to know that after not seeing them regularly for months, that they won't show up at the biggest show of the year. The hype videos mean as much to actual build and the actual card as PPV posters, which basically means none at all. And yes, the new crowd wants to see the big names. With that being said, big name female wrestlers are the equivalent to midcard male wrestlers.
Just because advertising means shit at times, that shouldn't be the regular move. Advertising is meant for something you are going to get if you purchase it. You don't get what see, the advertiser just fucked you and deserves bad reputation. Plain and simple.

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On your comment on the show: For TNA standards, 21K to 60K is in the red. They scrapped the match? When? They never said that? I agree with the X Division match, but they probably just made a tag match just so cause a big ass elimination 4 on 4 would seem cluttered. There is a contract stip for Ryan/Snow. As I recall, they said he had a one night contract at BFG, and he gets a full contract if he beats Snow. Why would they be interested? I dunno. Maybe because he was an entertaining midcarder. But, there's always slacking matches at big shows. So if TNA doesn't make a WWE midcarder vs an Indy guy look like Austin/Hart, when's its just team Long vs Team Johnny Ace, and don't put a cluttered 4 on 4 match between A&8s vs TNA, or stuff big female names into the show who haven't been used in months, those are reasons TNA is considered bush league? What?
You're talking of buyrates? I don't. They have up to 4.000 paying fans they don't have for the regular Impact Zone PPV. They have up to 4.000 fans who are all more hungry for merchandise than the 1.000 IZ regulars. So this is not some extra money?! They have to pay the rent for the building, but I think there would still be some money left to Sonjay Dutt and Kenny King for the night. With that said, Gail, Mickie and also Anderson for example don't have PPA deals. There is no reason to not present them at the show. There are only reasons to do so.

The countdown show is going to feature one of the eight PPV bouts. Probably Ion vs. BVD. Original advertising teased at least one additional match. There is no contract stipulation on Ryan vs. Snow. Also had Al never been a midcarder. He never held the Intercontinental Title, so I won't consider him to be a midcarder. Why is nowadays every match, that is not 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, referred to as a clusterfuck? Is a traditional Survivor Series match? LOL. They could have done 4 on 4 elimination with Sting, Ray, RVD and Anderson vs. the 4 non prospect guys, that A & E always had. And now it's just two of them? Makes less more sense and is going to deliver worse quality. It's not an WTTCOTW vs. Angle/AJ or Beer Money vs. MCMG type of regular tag match. It's two mediocre unknown big men vs. freakin "You still got it" 50 years old Sting and freakin Bully Ray, who's great, but just an average wrestler.

I hate to say it,because I'm a fan, but TNA is bush league, because even for their biggest show they can't showcase their roster right and in total. Remember Slammy when "the roster" came out to congratulate Sting and it were just like 15 guys or so. That was embarassing.

TNA's biggest problem is, that they always do mew mistakes, every time they just got rid of old ones.

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Old 10-07-2012, 06:17 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Here are a couple scenarios I have for the Sting/Bully Ray vs 2 A&8s members match.

My unrealistic scenario that I'd mark out for: The two members turned out to be The Briscoe Brothers (being that it's 2 on 2, you'd think A&8s would be debuting their tag team.) But it doesn't seem like these guys are on their way out of ROH.

Realistically: I think the team of Luke Gallows and Mike Knox is possible. I could see Luke Gallows/Mike Knox vs Sting/Bully Ray and an interference by Matt Morgan(Either with or against TNA is possible.)

Plenty of different ways this could work and I'm excited to see how it plays out.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:27 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Not gonna happen, but it would've been truly badass to have a mini orchestra do Roode's theme song.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:30 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I think it'll look really good win the arena, it's a, 'content', build overall, looking forward to it, more because of the last few months, as opposed to the last few weeks.
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I simply can't wait for BFG. Roode vs Storm will steal the show.
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I simply can't wait for BFG. Roode vs Storm will steal the show.
Not if Kurt bust out more suplexes and Hernandez does the border toss.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:00 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Not if Kurt bust out more suplexes and Hernandez does the border toss.
This is going to be a great match too.
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:17 PM   #139 (permalink)
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BFG this year does look a litle bit all over the place with some of it's matches. I will agree that the A&8s match should have been more people in it. But that's been covered already...

Aries/Hardy
What I'm kinda concerned about is the main event. Hardy a part from his heel run, has always worked the underdog sort of match. He looks very strong, but gets beat upa whole match before having his big babyface highflying comebacks. I'm not too sure how this match is going to be booked, but I don't see it working in match against a smaller guy in Aries.

Not only that but if this storyline from Hardy's side of the fence is all about redemption, then for him to win the title against a tweener/face, underdog Champ in Aries, it just doesn't have the same impact as it would against a Kurt Angle or Bobby Roode. Aries on the other hand wants the popularity that a Jeff Hardy has and he needs to beat Jeff. Therefore have we got two underdogs in this match? It's an interesting situation that doesn't look good on paper.

Also from an inring standpoint, Hardy as popular as he is, he is still at times quite sloppy. It is often over looked because he is usually the smaller guy in the match, but being in with Aries, it might really stick out like a sore thumb!

These are concerns of course, and hopefully these two guys will really put on a great match. Aries is a master in the ring and I'm sure he'll carry Jeff well. the outcome I see happening is a Hardy win though. Hardy wins, Aries turns heel the next Impact, or Aries turns heel and gets the tainted win... Every BFG except last year has seen a title change to the "hero", even if the title gets changed the show after, which has happened a few times also.

Roode/Storm
If this match is as good as the Storm/Harris deathmatch impact had years ago, this match is going to be amazing. I can see both men a bloody mess going through tables!! I just hope King Mo doesn't screw up this match. I've seen many unfamiliar with the product enforcers or special guest refs screw up a great match.
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Sting & Bully Ray vs only two Ace's & 8's members is fine. TNA doesn't need to turn that into a wild schmoz. It might go that route mid or post match regardless.
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