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Old 09-27-2012, 12:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Won't it make TNA look bad if they scrap their women's division, meaning firing most of their female talent? Or does WWE only take shit for stuff like that.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:50 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I love how people are basicly saying that the KO division in 2009-11 was good. Stop lying people. It's been garbage ever since Dutch left.
That was just about three years ago (a shade more.) Yes that seems to be about when things started heading south. Though they did have some nice matches in late '09/early '10. The entertainment factor was starting to ebb though and the new regime souring it with Kong took another step in the wrong direction early on.

Before that though, it was good. And definately not a drag on the product.

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I've been said since day damn one that Bruce Prichard shouldn't have been hired from the get-go.
I don't get his appeal either. The ratings were kind of disappointing to begin with. He's made an iffy situation worse. His appeal to some people or places at wrestling specific net forums doesn't seem to extend well to other demographics.

Anyway the Ko's divsion is a shell of it's former fun self. For that matter, the product in general is pretty mundane whenever I decide to tune in anymore. Much of the midcard might not as well even exist apparently. TNA has made some terrible decisions over the last few years. At this point Prichard seems like another in a line of has been or never should have been creative influencing guys that TNA has acquitted too much power to.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:07 AM   #43 (permalink)
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That was just about three years ago (a shade more.) Yes that seems to be about when things started heading south. Though they did have some nice matches in late '09/early '10. The entertainment factor was starting to ebb though and the new regime souring it with Kong took another step in the wrong direction early on.

Before that though, it was good. And definately not a drag on the product.



I don't get his appeal either. The ratings were kind of disappointing to begin with. He's made a iffy situation worse. His appeal to some people or places at wrestling specific net forums doesn't seem to extend well to other demographics.

Anyway the Ko's divsion is a shell of it's former fun self. For that matter, the product in general is pretty mundane whenever I decide to tune in anymore. Much of the midcard might not as well even exist apparently. TNA has made some terrible decisions over the last few years. At this point Prichard seems like another in a line of has been or never should have been creative influencing guys that TNA has acquitted too much power to.


it may help just to re boot the Division
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:18 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I love how people are basicly saying that the KO division in 2009-11 was good. Stop lying people. It's been garbage ever since Dutch left.
I think you meant Scott D'Amore.

Regardless, it started its downward spiral when Gail originally left, and became unsalvagable when Kong quit.
Kill it. It's just another piss break like the Divas anyway.

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I don't get his appeal either. The ratings were kind of disappointing to begin with. He's made a iffy situation worse. His appeal to some people or places at wrestling specific net forums doesn't seem to extend well to other demographics.

Anyway the Ko's divsion is a shell of it's former fun self. For that matter, the product in general is pretty mundane whenever I decide to tune in anymore. Much of the midcard might not as well even exist apparently. TNA has made some terrible decisions over the last few years. At this point Prichard seems like another in a line of has been or never should have been creative influencing guys that TNA has acquitted too much power to.
In regards to his appeal, it's simple, he's not Vince Russo. So the diehards are willing to accept Bruce's mediocrity as absolute gold. Truth is, Pritchard is as bad as Russo, just in a completely different way. While Russo went crazy with the booking, Prichard does almost nothing instead.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:19 AM   #45 (permalink)
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it may help just to re boot the Division
I can think of no less than eight women offhand that could bring a nice blend of mic work/character playing/wrestling to the product. And together would (on paper at least) have as good a women's division as has been seen on american tv this century, at least. And that is before taking into account a mainly ring work focused person here or there.

Unfortunately many or most were either misused by TNA already, weren't signed when they tried out, or apparently aren't on good terms with someone in TNA. Besides TNA's current creative team would blow it anyway. You could give them prime Trish and Lita and they would still fumble the ball.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:22 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I can think of no less than eight women offhand that could bring a nice blend of mic work/character playing/wrestling to the product. And together would (on paper at least) have as good a women's division as has been seen on american tv this century, at least. And that is before taking into account a mainly ring work focused person here or there.

Unfortunately many or most were either misused by TNA already, weren't signed when they tried out, or apparently aren't on good terms with someone in TNA. Besides TNA's current creative team would blow it anyway. You could give them prime Trish and Lita and they would still fumble the ball.
And yet this creative team is responsible for Austin Aries. The ONLY guy in TNA history won the world title at the perfectly right moment, while he was still hot and without getting "Monty Browned" or "Samoa Joed" around.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:44 AM   #47 (permalink)
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And yet this creative team is responsible for Austin Aries.
To add to what Aya Reiko said above regarding anyone but Russo, this is the other reason Pritchard is able to ride coattails despite TNA putting out a bland show that is not resonating with a wider tv audience. To wit, because an indy guy that devoted parts of uber net has long loved is at the top of the card. Unless one (maybe and theoretically speaking) has, for examples, Stone Cold and The Rock, one dimensional narrow focused thinking is not generally a recipe for wide spectrum positive movement.

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Old 09-27-2012, 03:23 AM   #48 (permalink)
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To add to what Aya Reiko said above regarding anyone but Russo, this is the other reason Pritchard is able to ride coattails despite TNA putting out a bland show that is not resonating with a wider tv audience. To wit, because an indy guy that devoted parts of uber net has long loved is at the top of the card. Unless one (maybe and theoretically speaking) has, for examples, Stone Cold and The Rock, one dimensional narrow focused thinking is not generally a recipe for wide spectrum positive movement.
So you want Dave langana to be head of creative instead
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:59 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I think the Knockouts could draw if given the right opportunities
For example

- Make Dutch Mantell and Scott D'Amore in charge of booking the division
- Dave Lagana could also have input of the direction of the division
- A brand new 1 hr show dedicated to the divison
- Get the knockout tag title of Eric young and put the belt on a legit team such as Canadian Ninjas
- Rehire popular ex-knockouts such as Awesome Kong, Alissa Flash, Hamada, Roxxi
- Form a talent relationship with Shimmer so new talent can be showcased
- Offer contracts to former WWE divas for name recognition even I they are short term contracts
- Bring back Velvet Sky and Angelina Love as the Beautiful People
- Give top talents mic time and story lines outside the belts
- Bring in top Indy talent such as Madison Eagles, Alpha Female,Mia Yim,Kana, Mschief, Daizee Haze and Cherry Bomb
- Make the 1 hr show edgier than Impact to draw on male viewers
- Have top fueds continue on Thursdays impact

If booking for the 1 hr show is as good as impact and the right wrestlers are pushed could be a massive turn around for the knockouts
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I love how people are basicly saying that the KO division in 2009-11 was good. Stop lying people. It's been garbage ever since Dutch left.
Agreed, it was horrible then too. Title change via lockbox match, fuck yeah!

The most exciting era of wrestling didn't have a women's division, or at least not a lot of matches involving women. They were used as valets and eye candy, which I think is best. I always skip divas matches unless someone like Kharma is involved. Why should I watch it? For the eye candy? There are other websites for that if I'm desperate or just real life I hope they phase the division out.
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