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post #71 of 84 (permalink) Old 12-05-2012, 09:19 AM
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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT
I don't see how that's such a ridiculous statement. Steen's great and all but Bully Ray has definitely had a better year.


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what if TNA BOUGHT OUT PWG AND CLOSED IT?! what then?
PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Considering PWG is owned by wrestlers and all who don't have a need to sell it. They don't have any aspirations to grow beyond what they're doing (aka putting on awesome wrestling and sell dvds) so they're fine as they are.

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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

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PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Considering PWG is owned by wrestlers and all who don't have a need to sell it. They don't have any aspirations to grow beyond what they're doing (aka putting on awesome wrestling and sell dvds) so they're fine as they are.
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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

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The only way of steen getting a TNA contract is if WWE is stupid enough to reject him (austin aries style).
Which I doubt, Punk will give him a spot.
If Punk could give Steen a spot, then why isn't Steen signed yet ?

Right now if TNA want Steen, they have a chance of landing him...but they shouldn't waste time. If they want him they have to go get him before Vince and Hunter eventually offer him a deal.

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In terms of a long term investment, I personally see Adam Cole as TNA's guy. He's 5 years younger than Steen, great look, great ability, good promo skills and very flexible in all divisions for TNA.
If TNA was smart they would want to sign both Steen and Cole. Steen can debut in the upper card and pay immediate dividends, whereas Adam being younger and a little less seasoned would be a perfect candidate to debut on the bottom and work from the ground up. He's the perfect guy to bring in with the expectation that he can be built up in a year's time to take advantage of Option C.

Steen and Cole are definitely 2 workers they should be looking to snatch up before WWE does. Addition by subtraction if you ask me, add them in and let RVD expire in March and go his own way. Anderson or SuperMex would be the other I'd let walk right now (and yes I'm aware they resigned Hernandez this past summer, but he brings little to no value to the table).

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I don't see how that's such a ridiculous statement. Steen's great and all but Bully Ray has definitely had a better year.
The better year is subject to one's personal opinion. But it doesn't even matter who had the "better year" as they work for different companies and neither has full control and perhaps in Steen's case little control on how they are booked.

All that aside, TNA should never have the mindset of "well we don't need Steen because we have Bully Ray". There is a place for both of them on the roster if TNA were to sign Steen.

And we could all be entertained by a Steen vs Bully feud.

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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

^things aren't that simple.

Contracts are contracts and there's a lot of backstage factors we don't know.
Joey Ryan, Austin Aries and Lagana are 3 magnets for indy talent because they have a long history with most of the "kevin steen's" out there.
But I feel like ROH is more WWE pro than TNA pro, if you look at the past history: both aries and kenny king left in bad terms while everyone that leaves ROH for WWE is almost a hero.



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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

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^things aren't that simple.

Contracts are contracts and there's a lot of backstage factors we don't know.
Joey Ryan, Austin Aries and Lagana are 3 magnets for indy talent because they have a long history with most of the "kevin steen's" out there.
But I feel like ROH is more WWE pro than TNA pro, if you look at the past history: both aries and kenny king left in bad terms while everyone that leaves ROH for WWE is almost a hero.
Well Aries wasn't hated by anyone other then the change in management from Pearce to Cornette and King did leave them in the lurch with the tag titles. And the fans didn't really hate either for leaving. The only person they've hated for leaving was Tyler Black when he left while he was champion. But you're right about the contracts only because SBG, unlike Cary, really doesn't care if wrestlers get success beyond ROH.


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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

I really like Steen so nobody should take this comment the wrong way..


He's gotten really fat. I think he needs to start doing SOMETHING to get in some almost form of shape other than a circle before either TNA or WWE are going to look in his direction. That's kinda sad to say but they don't like fat guys. (I know I know... Samoa Joe, Snoop dog's bodyguard I forcably forgot the name of, Husky Harris.. Joe and Harris are nowhere near as out of shape, joe's getting better every week. The bodyguard was hired because he was a former bodyguard for snoop dog.) You combine that with him only really being effective when he can use that sleazy style and I don't see him going to either company any time soon. He fits in ROH and I don't think either of the other two companies really need him. It's always possible WWE could grab him to let him die a slow painful death in FCW/NXT.. but I don't think so. TNA has too big a roster for the amount of tv time available to them already.




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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

Kenny King left because ROH waited until the last week to renew his contract and wanted to give him jack shit.
Aries said many times, the new people in charge of the company have no idea WTF they are doing and constantly insult their wrestlers with ridiculous contract offers.

I'm not talking about the fans, more like the backstage mentally but that's always a mystery.



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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

The exceptional talents that TNA needs to sign are Brian Cage, TMDK (Haste & Nichols) and Kenny Omega. I would add Fergal Devitt and MVP to that list but I heard their happy in New Japan
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The better year is subject to one's personal opinion. But it doesn't even matter who had the "better year" as they work for different companies and neither has full control and perhaps in Steen's case little control on how they are booked.

All that aside, TNA should never have the mindset of "well we don't need Steen because we have Bully Ray". There is a place for both of them on the roster if TNA were to sign Steen.

And we could all be entertained by a Steen vs Bully feud.
Well duh but im not going to preface all my posts by saying imo b/c that'd come off as obnoxious. From what I've seen from both guys though I'd say I've enjoyed bully more (i havent paid all that much attention to roh but ive heard nothing special has happened, and from what ive seen i havent got a hard time believing that). Most of Steen's PWG work has been fun to watch and he probably edges Bully in terms of number of good matches but I'd take Bully's best over Steen's best. As a character though I'd say it's not even close. Especially when you look at how much improvement Ray has had since going solo.

Steen/Bully feud could be fun if they tried to out-heel each other, but it's not exactly high on my list of things I have to see. If they went for it fine, if they didn't I could live without it. I'd rather see an Adam Cole or El Generico in TNA but that's me.

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Re: Could TNA try to bring Kevin Steen?

Is kevin steen like a better version of samoa joe? I mean joe does the bicycle kick but I have seen Steen do placha moonsault and 450. I was like omfg. Seriously if he comes to tna, I want to see him feud with joe. See who is the better fat-athletic man of wrestling.
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