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post #861 of 4984 (permalink) Old 08-17-2012, 01:44 PM
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Re: Whos behind Aces and Eights?

Although most who watch tna dont know who chris harris is or AMW. So the potential pay off isnt big enough for that angle. Slap a biker vest and jeans on joe and he has a new look to go along with his new destroy everything mentality hes developing. Joe would get a major push and would turn to the monster heel to go up against aries at BFG. MEGA PUSH FOR JOE! He needs a direction/ no more tweener. He is a great full blown monster heel. Let him and aries go at it for months ending at Lethal Lockdown with A's and 8's (joe as the leader) vs. Aries, sting, storm, hardy, and angle. After the aries feud and joe has the belt rekindle the Angle/Joe feud for a couple months of 5 star clashes with Joe retaining in the end. Angle should never hold another belt. Its time he elevates everyone else.

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Re: Aces & Eights Discussion Thread

That big, fat member of the Aces n Eights at this weeks Impact, the one that was cutting the promo, he really reminded me of Abyss. The way he talked, the hand gestures. As a matter of fact I think he reminded me of the way Abyss acts when he portrays Joseph Park. The one with blonde hair is obviously Wes Brisco, they did a piss poor job of hiding his identity. That backstage promo with Kurt Angle was my first time seeing him and I already have no problem recognizing him under the bandanna. Why the hell am I supposed to believe Kurt Angle hasn't recognized him yet?



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I'm ready to see Matt Morgan dominate in an angry, fed up, heel role(5 year contract singed in 2009, still featured in direct auto commercials).

I'm just as interested in the actual members. The wes briscoe tease on impact in the last few weeks, him being the masked attacker with long hair, and his ties to being an extremist/loose cannon/ covered in tattoos screams prominent member(not leader.) Not familiar with his work.....Youtube his stint in fcw prior to his injury. Major potential as their x division star of the group.

The man in the blue flannel and DC hat is being played by Sam Shaw(gutcheck contestant, most likely not in the group, as with most involved with the beatings.)

One of the larger men is Mike Knox(featured in dark match recently), he can be picked out of the group due to his size and him hiding his beard in his mask. Look close in the some of the pictures.

Luke Gallows(Drew Hankinson/Festus) was groomed for this part in the Ring KaKing(TNA India Offshoot), with his Outlaw Isaiah Cash character.

A few other major players could be:
Harry Smith(David hart Smith, Bulldog Hart in Ring KaKing) w a new found edge.

Chris Masters (dark match w tna and american adonis in Ring KaKing)

Trevor Murdoch(Outlaw Jethro Holliday in TNA and Roscoe JAckson in Ring KaKing)

John Morrison (aggressive heel turn could be the best thing to ever happen to him and he could bring melina along to dominate the womens division and complete their group having someone in every division and status[upper,mid,lowcard,xdivision,tag, and womens], as well as the open interest shown to he and melina in the last year)

Ryan Braddock(Brad Bradley, Jay Bradley, is a monster as well as a biker).

I understand all of these are wwe outcasts and most will cringe. Aside from masters nobody has fit the wwe mold or given the proper opportunity. Before saying OMG, terrible idea, watch some Ring KaKing with Cash and Bulldog Hart. If given the opportunity and a tv14 rating, these characters could have the edge they needed to come across as someone to be afraid of, especially in a biker style group who do not care about rules or sanctions. Give it a chance. Do you have better(logical) fits for this group.

Tna has already worked with these wrestlers in some way or another. [Main event Matt Morgan, upper Jomo,mid Masters or Hart,lowcard Holliday,xdivision Wes Briscoe,tag Cash and Knox, and womens Melina]

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That big, fat member of the Aces n Eights at this weeks Impact, the one that was cutting the promo, he really reminded me of Abyss. The way he talked, the hand gestures. As a matter of fact I think he reminded me of the way Abyss acts when he portrays Joseph Park. The one with blonde hair is obviously Wes Brisco, they did a piss poor job of hiding his identity. That backstage promo with Kurt Angle was my first time seeing him and I already have no problem recognizing him under the bandanna. Why the hell am I supposed to believe Kurt Angle hasn't recognized him yet?
I was actually thinking the same thing about Abyss. It was a good promo, and the gestures were similar and, the voice is changed, which made it seem like it could be someone on the roster.

The only thing is, he doesn't have the height, nor does he move like Abyss at all.


I agree about that being Brisco though


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Re: Whos behind Aces and Eights?

I say Matt Morgan, he signed a five year contract 3 years ago, and every report
I have seen says his contract expired. Something doesn't quite seem right
about a 5 year deal expiring in 3 years...

There may of course have been some kind of options ib his contract
or the report of an expired cobtract could be off and he could have been granted his release
or something, but until further facts come out, I say Matt Morgan
leaving was the first in the series of worked shoots and swerves
Lagana has done so well.

Also Morgan would do well in a stable of this kind and have
a great backstory in his WHC pursuits since 2010, in yerms of going
after the BFG series contestants.
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Re: Whos behind Aces and Eights?

If they go after Magnus next week, I could see it being Joe.

They've been doing a fantastic job booking because there's so many ways it can go.



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I was actually thinking the same thing about Abyss. It was a good promo, and the gestures were similar and, the voice is changed, which made it seem like it could be someone on the roster.

The only thing is, he doesn't have the height, nor does he move like Abyss at all.


I agree about that being Brisco though
Definitely is wes brisco. The large main talker has been Dlo.

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Re: Whos behind Aces and Eights?

Samoa Joe, he's winning which is odd.


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Not really, WWE is going back to pushing big guys. Tensai (already failed), Sheamus, Brodus Clay, RVDberg, etc. They want another big man and morgan fits the style.
Unless TNA is letting him free of his five year contract that started in 2009 and is planning on pulling the multiple direct auto ads, not to mention the ongoing lawsuit between tna and wwe over insider info on talent, I would say they have a plan for Morgan. Plus Lagana(new writer who did all of Ring Kaking) is a large fan of twitter usage and social media in furthering and creating storylines.

You maybe right but i think its a longshot and a well devised ploy on TNA's part.

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Re: Whos behind Aces and Eights?

The cool part is that there are so many little clues to kind of pull us in different directions.

- Samoa Joe has been suspiciously separated from this whole thing and one of his enemies, The Pope, got attacked. Joe called out The Pope on a recent Open Fight Night to remind us of their rivalry, and that raised my eyebrow when he got attacked at the PPV. If anything happens to Magnus, that'll be another indicator.

- Bully Ray, to my recollection, has never been physically attacked by the As & Es. And with all his accusations against Storm, you could say he is passing off blame just to keep eyes off of him.

- In one of the promos, one of them said "Assholes" which could be a nod to make us think it might be Anderson. Anderson has also been suspiciously missing for most of the Aces & Eights business.

- Matt Morgan has been absent since Lockdown I think and his status with TNA is in question. Could he be gone or are they keeping him away to make the reveal more of a surprise when we see him?

- Jeff Jarrett could be it. He's been gone for a long time and Sting was the first attack the night after Sting got announced as the inductee into TNA's Hall of Fame. Is it possible that Jarrett felt snubbed and this is his method of revenge?

- And these options are lame, I know, but some of us are thinking that Brooke Hogan or Garrett Bischoff could be behind it all as well.

So I'll give TNA credit for creating so many different possibilities with a mystery angle, both subtle and in the forefront. This isn't like the "They" storyline where everyone and their grandmother knew it was Hogan & Bischoff.

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