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Old 01-05-2013, 03:55 PM   #3121 (permalink)
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That's when Spike TV used to give them money to invest in talent in an attempt to raise their profile. Those days are LONG gone. Since TNA and Spike re-signed with each other, TNA never go on the road anymore with Spike's backing and TNA have fired a bunch of talent and renegotiated deals to save money. Its why the promotion is filled with indy geeks like Joey Ryan, Kenny King and Zima Ion. Because they can pay them shit money and they are such marks they will be happy just to be on TV. And thats why there is no talent coming into TNA anymore. The likes of Pac, Alex Shelley, Low Ki, Jack Evans, Harry Smith can all find better paying jobs either in WWE, New Japan or AAA.

TNA isnt the TNA of 2010. Since Spike got Bellator they became the priority. TNA is number 2 on Spike priority list because they own part of it.

And how is that saying wrestling is a joke to him? Bret Hart didnt like WWF's direction in 1997 but he didnt think the wrestling business was a joke. You totally reached for that. Batista never said that at all. A companies direction doesn't shape someones opinion on the whole business.
Joey Ryan and Kenny King are indie geeks but Jack Evans and Low Ki aren't? 2 guys that wrestled for TNA in jobber matches to get a contract and failed... But yes, TNA would never afford them, only cheap austin aries was available. Dixie is a dumb fuck with a lot of money from her daddy. If it wasn't for prichard and others, Nash and Hall would still be on TNA winning rivers of money.

Alright, if you want to replace words because "joke" is too strong, I will use the inverse BS translator for you: "Batista is very unconformable and sad with the current direction of pro wrestling and sees MMA as a superior market. Therefore he wishes everyone the best but most likely will not be anywhere near a wrestling ring for a while"
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:54 PM   #3122 (permalink)
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Joey Ryan and Kenny King are indie geeks but Jack Evans and Low Ki aren't? 2 guys that wrestled for TNA in jobber matches to get a contract and failed...
Failed to get a TNA contract?!! WRESTLING IS FAKE! They never "failed" to get a TNA contract. They accepted payments to put over TNA talents and continued to work elsewhere because they didnt want TNA contracts. Zima Ion "failed" to get a TNA contract as well. But since he has no where else to work, he stuck around. The real winners are the ones who dont get TNA contracts because that means they have options elsewhere.

Low Ki and Jack Evans currently work for promotions with a great history that sell out arenas and are treated like big names by the promotions. They earn more money working for New Japan and AAA than a lot of the TNA roster. You cant even compare Evans and Low Ki to Joey Ryan and Kenny King. No major promotion wanted to hire King and Ryan. Whereas Evans and Low Ki have pretty much always worked either the big time indies or nationally ran federations.
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If your talking about Jack Evans. I would much rather have Teddy Hart in TNA with the X-Division belt than Low Ki or Jack Evans.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:59 PM   #3124 (permalink)
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If your talking about Jack Evans. I would much rather have Teddy Hart in TNA with the X-Division belt than Low Ki or Jack Evans.
Me too. He's pretty great in AAA. He can talk as well which is always a bonus.

Teddy said Bruce Prichard hate him and has fired him several times in WWF before so it'll probably never happen.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:16 PM   #3125 (permalink)
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Why not, that's what he was called in WWE. They'll probably rename him to avoid legal ramifications but I don't think there's anything wrong with them mentioning where he came from.
They don't mention the fact that "DOC" is from WWE. They said he "managed some of the biggest names in the industry"(Punk is only one I ever remember him managing that was considered big), but never said which company. So sorta strange to hear them mention WWE when talking about Knox.


And WWE trademarks all non real names don't they? Though supposedly he used "Mike Knoxx" outside of WWE, so just a mini change like that is prob what they'll do. Or "Mike Nox" lol.
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You can only sue someone if they market you as such. Just look at Paparazzi Productions. There was a thousand references to Diesel and the WWF and the WWF title. But if they bought Nash out as Diesel they would have been in breach of intellectual property. You cant sue someone for what they have already been. Saying he used to be Mike Knox is fact. You can sue for telling a fact. No idea why they didnt say anything about Doc. Maybe its because Mike Knox appearance has changed since we last saw him in WWE they needed to tell you who he was.
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If TNA did not say he was Mike Knox from WWE, no one would have a clue who he is.
That is why they had to make the connection between Mike Knox and WWE in the last episode of impact.

Not a good way to run a business, introduce the latest member of Aces and 8s and have to explain to the TNA audience who he is.

I hang my head in shame.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:28 PM   #3128 (permalink)
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Can't wait for "That's former WWF European Champion D'Lo Brown!" Or if Jay Bradley is in them "that's some guy from Billy Corgan's promotion who WWE fired".

"Impact" is the worst name for this show. There is hardly any impact on anything.
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Old 01-05-2013, 05:30 PM   #3129 (permalink)
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The biggest problem with the Aces and Eights is how they are being booked. They're not being booked as strong as they were initially. Add to the fact they've decided to book a completely different storyline with Hulk Hogan and Bully Ray ruins the Aces and Eights angle as the most important. I honestly believe TNA never reconsidered the storyline with too much detail. That's the reason for the holes in the angle and no big name being revealed at this point when that should have been done already. Then TNA decided to add payoff angles involving Roode and Aries. Those confuse the viewers as to what's going on with the group.
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I agree, Aces and 8s should have been the main focus until who is behind Aces and 8s was revealed.

Having 3 main event storylines with one show per week is far too many.
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