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Old 01-02-2013, 09:54 PM   #3061 (permalink)
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They are only evil because they are promoted as such. Faces paying them not to take someone out, to help them in a fight. TNA's recent string of storylines consisted of Austin Aries and Bobby Roode paying them to help them. Logic tells you anyone can do so. Same was done with the APA in WWE circa 1999-2001. Kid Kash is getting to the point where his in-ring days are numbered. The Four Horsemen didn't need J. J. Dillon, but he added to the group. Kash would be used in a similar fashion. There's never a problem with someone turning heel from out of no where. It has been done numerous of times. Don't you watch wrestling? Plus, James Storm would be aligning with a couple of country guys. After all, Storm is a country guy. It makes sense to join him with Jodi Kristofferson and Husky Harris, the nephew of Barry Windham. That would be an idea if TNA could pick them up.
Faces paid APA to even the odds so they could fight on an even playing field, not the same thing A&8 have done, and that doesn't make sense considering the heels most of the faces are fighting are A&8s. Never mind that the A&8's goal is to hurt TNA.

Dillon was added to the Horsemen because he was already Tully's manager/advisory role during his feud with Rhodes & Baby Doll in a sensible spot. What role would Kash have when Roode and Bad Influence are way above him, never mind the idiocy of sticking those three with the likes of Robbie E and Gunner.

And yeah, shock heel turns have been done many times. Pretty much why TNA is in the rut it's been in over the past few years.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:35 PM   #3062 (permalink)
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Faces paid APA to even the odds so they could fight on an even playing field, not the same thing A&8 have done, and that doesn't make sense considering the heels most of the faces are fighting are A&8s. Never mind that the A&8's goal is to hurt TNA.

Dillon was added to the Horsemen because he was already Tully's manager/advisory role during his feud with Rhodes & Baby Doll in a sensible spot. What role would Kash have when Roode and Bad Influence are way above him, never mind the idiocy of sticking those three with the likes of Robbie E and Gunner.

And yeah, shock heel turns have been done many times. Pretty much why TNA is in the rut it's been in over the past few years.
Kid Kash has always been one of the top talkers as a heel. Plus, last I remembered, Gunner and Kash was a team. If Gunner is put into a group headed by Bobby Roode, Kash would probably be in it as well.Managers are basically mouthpieces for the heels. They add dimensions to a heel's character as well. Honestly, did Tully really need Dillon? Absolutely not, but added something to Tully's heel run.

An Aces & Eights face turn would be logical under the right circumstances, not just something out of the blue. If Aces & Eights were feuding against TNA, then why have Roode and Aries paying them for their services? Really, they are being booked liked the APA did in WWE. And perhaps that is what it will eventually play out that someone has paid them to take out TNA's top wrestlers.

Adding Gunner and Robbie E to a heel group with Roode, Daniels, and Kazarian will help to build Gunner and especially Robbie E as top heels and to establish them as two of the top guys in TNA.

The reason TNA is in a rut is not shocking heel turns. It is bad booking. Same reason WCW did so poorly at the end. TNA creative never booked guys past a certain level. They've had performers who were ready to be top names in promotion. Yet, they weren't given an opportunity to do so. Same is going on now.

About shocking heel turns, if it is the right person at the right time, there's a possibility for some of the greatest feuds in TNA's history.

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I like the Mike Knox reveal. But i think he and Doc would be better off as just a tagteam instead of being A&8 members. If you book Doc/Knox strong like a Kings of Wrestling or Road Warriors you have a very solid base for a tagteam division, but i feel that A&8 will drag them down because all their matches will end up in DQs because of all the outside interference.

Or if they dont want to use them as a tagteam, i'd rather see a small group (3 to 4 members) consisting of Mike Knox, DOC and Jay Bradley (optionally with Devon as some sort of manager). But once again, you have to start booking them stronger. Right now A&8 isnt going anywhere and nobody takes them serious any more.
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The only way this group will get back from the failure of yesterday is if the president comes down to the impact zone and asks for answers. Resulting in both Devon/Dlo Brown getting expelled from the group and Anderson being the new VP with DOC, Brisco, Knox and Bradley to back him up.
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I still think that Bully Ray and Brooke Hogan being behind AN8's is still a possibility. A Brooke heel turn would be a lot more interesting than what she's doing now.
I think that's where they're going with it too. I don't see really what else they could do with the Brooke/Bully thing to be honest.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:01 AM   #3066 (permalink)
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The only way this group will get back from the failure of yesterday is if the president comes down to the impact zone and asks for answers. Resulting in both Devon/Dlo Brown getting expelled from the group and Anderson being the new VP with DOC, Brisco, Knox and Bradley to back him up.
I would love to see the storyline take a turn and the members change a bit(especially the two you mention). It's just comical seeing the Vice-President of the group, D-Lo, getting one punched and rolling around with his fat belly out.

Unfortunately, Devon is the heart and soul of this group, the focal character, and the mouth piece.

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I like the Mike Knox reveal. But i think he and Doc would be better off as just a tagteam instead of being A&8 members. If you book Doc/Knox strong like a Kings of Wrestling or Road Warriors you have a very solid base for a tagteam division, but i feel that A&8 will drag them down because all their matches will end up in DQs because of all the outside interference.
I agree with you as well, and I hope that once Aces and Eights are squashed, these two form a potent tag team. Both guys are good workers for big men, just need a mouthpiece for them to talk.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:17 AM   #3067 (permalink)
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The only way this group will get back from the failure of yesterday is if the president comes down to the impact zone and asks for answers. Resulting in both Devon/Dlo Brown getting expelled from the group and Anderson being the new VP with DOC, Brisco, Knox and Bradley to back him up.
If you want to clean house that's fine with the Pres. bringing in Bradley and other unknown guys, but why would you keep any of the guys that's been getting beat left and right? Last night they had a three-on-two advantage in a cage match, beat up one guy forever while the other got his head slammed in the cage door three times and they still lost. Then the entire gang got beat up by a 50+ year old who came down with all the enthusiasm of going outside to get his mail. Everybody's a geek, everyone has to go.
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My main problem is I have no idea what A&8 are actually trying to accomplish overall

are they after a certain wrestler or title

are they here for revenge

are they here just to hurt TNA or "invade"

They seem to dick around in their clubhouse more than anything

With no real motive they kind of just wander in beat some one up and wander out (that would be fine at first but at this point I think they need SOME backstory or motive)
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Whoever thought that unmasking jobbers was a good hook for A&8s should be fired.

I don't even know where they go from here. Sting said he was coming back to take out A&8s, I didn't expect him to do it all in one night. You know Devon, Gallows and KNOX FROM WWE won't let the Stinger get away with this one, but who cares? Adding Anderson at this point seems pretty fitting.

This faction is very close to going bust. TNA really need to step things up.
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I'm actually looking forward to the Brooke Hogan heel turn, if that's the direction they are going. I want to see how messed up and stupid this angle can get.
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