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Old 12-18-2012, 05:35 PM   #2871 (permalink)
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Nope, crash and burn storylines suck. That was the main reason why nexus went to shit.

Sting's crow angle for example worked because of the "suspense" and the pay off. TNA is doing everything right but failing on the most important part, the conclusion.
Let me get this straight that I'm a massive TNA fan as to question them on here you get looked at as a WWE mark, BUT:
Nobody's saying 'crash and burn' just saying that they have lost all danger as a credible threat because they keep jobbing in meaningless tag team matches!
They could be at the same situation now but having won their matches and left people laying and still be teasing the big reveal and be in much better position.

Hell even the commentators asking'what the hell do these people want' or someone cutting a promo asking this would help!

(as a side note do they not know they're being filmed in their clubhouse?!!!)
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:09 PM   #2872 (permalink)
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Let me get this straight that I'm a massive TNA fan as to question them on here you get looked at as a WWE mark, BUT:
Nobody's saying 'crash and burn' just saying that they have lost all danger as a credible threat because they keep jobbing in meaningless tag team matches!
They could be at the same situation now but having won their matches and left people laying and still be teasing the big reveal and be in much better position.
Yeah them losing all the time kinda makes them look like a joke.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:40 PM   #2873 (permalink)
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I wish this story was just structured better. When it comes to factions, there are always 2-3 questions that have to be answered.

"Who are the members?" and "What do they want?"

You knew who the nWo were and what they wanted a couple months in. Same with the Shield.

Currently at the 6.5 month mark we have neither answer and that is terrible storytelling.

This storyline at this point will never be anything to call friends about but it can be salvaged if they answer a few questions each week.

Voluntarily remove masks to peak suspicions, put a true face to the group, yes I mean a Jarrett or Bischoff, at this point someone like this is needed despite how the internet fans will react.
Good post. I agree. It's too damn bad you can't use an example from WWE without marks in here going crazy having to try and put over something by TNA as being "better". When that CLEARLY isn't the point you're making.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:59 PM   #2874 (permalink)
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Uh no, I don't want storylines over in 2 weeks, yet I don't want to wait months and months for something, just something interesting to happen, something concrete to talk about. Its about finding a balance which TNA haven't yet been able to do.
For Example, Bound For Glory, That would've been the right time to reveal the Leader, instead we got Devon.. Just my personal opinion..
And if they'd done that the same people saying they're taking too long with what they're doing now would be saying "oh well these guys are old, when will this stable go away?" Just like MEM, just like Immortal, Just like 4tune, just like world elite, Just like Nexus, just like almost every group that's been formed since the attitude era. Some great groups that could have been incredibly interesting if they'd stuck with them... Again, people have no patience.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:20 PM   #2875 (permalink)
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Admittedly, I'm a bit of an instant gratification person, but if a long-term story arc is handled properly, with advancement and continual new hooks to keep people engaged, I enjoy and appreciate that just fine. However, the Aces&8s epic (as in very, very long) saga is not advancing. It's not changing much at all, for that matter.

This has been going on for months; I think I've been plenty patient. The entire audience has been forced to be patient but there comes a time when story progression HAS to happen. In the beginning, people paid attention because there was suddenly a group of folks with a hidden agenda and there was curiosity about who they were and what they might ultimately do.

As of now, the Aces&8s are stagnant and they've lost their power to be dangerous outsiders. They hang out backstage in their own separate little clubhouse/spare room throwing darts at posters and drinking beer with masks on, then come out and lose some matches. That isn't interesting, it isn't building to something, it's not even entertaining to speculate about possible debuts associated with all this anymore because nobody cares about a bunch of losers having a private laugh over how clever and wild they are week after week after week.

It's not like there's no potential in the story; when they get to act brutal, as if the beat downs have consequences, they get some of their shine back. The problem is, this endless dragging on has resulted in a ton of filler moments that weaken everything. Add that to the schizophrenic treatment Aces&8s get – Are they legit and threatening (show up, do their thing, and leave) or are they a comedy act (the kidnapping scenarios, all that hanging out backstage having parties and whatnot)? - and much, probably most, of the audience has given up caring.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:26 AM   #2876 (permalink)
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In UK last night they showed TNA Unfinished Business - Kurt Angle/Jeff Jarrett. Given Jeff hasn't been on TV in over a year I wonder if this is a hint that he is due to return soon? Remind people of the rivalry befor the reveal? He doesn't neccessarily have to be the president, but he might still be affiliated in some way. Maybe he has paid A N 8's to take out Angle and that is why they have been targetting him? Ormaybe they just needed something to show on TV?
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:43 AM   #2877 (permalink)
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Science help us all if this is a segway into another Angle/Jarrett feud.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:32 AM   #2878 (permalink)
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I still suspect the Cowboy could end up being the leader. There might be some holes in that story, but they're fixable.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:59 AM   #2879 (permalink)
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They could have the leader as someone like Jarrett or Bischoff who, as soon as he gets revealed gets overthrown from within by someone he brought in such a AJ Styles or Janes Storm. Jarrett (or whoever) comes out reveals himself, storm delivers a last call and as Jarrett demands A N 8's take him out the other members all stand behind him in a show of solidarity before taking out the original president


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Old 12-19-2012, 11:23 AM   #2880 (permalink)
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The leader is Alex Shelley.
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