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Old 12-14-2012, 06:34 AM   #2761 (permalink)
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AJ Styles was fine the moment the storyline ended - No angst shown towards the fans whatsoever. Again, totally random and defies logic. He'll go heel and bring up a point that nobody remembers b/c for a brief bit the fans thought AJ was banging the boss to get everything in the company. Oh man, that's riveting stuff.

Sting was given the HOF spot b/c he's Sting. TNA management contributes him as being a guy to help give them popularity. Doesn't matter if he was the hardest worker or not, that point is factual. You might not agree since you want to fanboy TNA with the "more talented guys". But, AJ Styles at the end of the day is still a nobody when compared to Sting.

Jarrett being more frustrated about not being first in the HOF already stands more ground than Styles if this angle would be the catalyst behind Aces. He founded the company and all that jazz. He felt he should have been awarded in the highest honor, etc. Off the top of my head I created something better than this Styles plan.
- That's the whole point, AJ is frustrated because his hard work is meaningless.

- Opinion vs Opinion my friend, why everyone sees their own shit as fact? I guess it's the nature of the wrestling community. Every discussion starts with "I'm right and you're totally wrong".
I see no purpose on having jarrett as the leader of aces&eights, AJ is someone everyone respects in the wrestling business so it makes sense for DOC and other new guys to "die for the cause". Who is the dumbfuck that will trust Jarrett after all the shit he did?

JJ founded the company AJ built.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:40 AM   #2762 (permalink)
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Then why question me when you knew the debate would be redundant and I wouldn't change my stance on it?

Oh, and that quote can go to anyone vs Sting. That's basically what the lead in was for the Main Event Mafia in 2008. Don't feel like watching a rehash with a new faction. Only replace Joe with AJ and AJ going heel.

I don't see any purpose for Jarrett either. Other than striking a deal with Bischoff to be his lead in. Never said I liked it. It's only an option I can see happening. I'm sold on Bischoff either way. Jarrett is a maybe to support the logic of how Bischoff can appear back on TV via the stipulation earlier at Lockdown.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:54 AM   #2763 (permalink)
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I wouldn't object to them having gold. The only drawback is the division is so depleted as it is. They only have to work vs makeshift teams constantly or Chavo/Hernandez in an extended feud. Love me some Knox & D.O.C., but yikes at the prospects of the latter part of my post.
Knox & DOC should get the straps in the UK and can work the rematch on TV as well against Los Stereotypicos. Then begin building towards a big tag title match at Lockdown against a one night only reunion of Beer Money (do away with the Lethal Lockdown match). If Storm is aligned with Aces then he can turn on Roode here, if not Storm could accidentally hit the Last Call on Roode costing them the match.

Joe and a returning Mag Daddy can reform in the UK as well setting up Joe/Magnus vs Knox/DOC for Slammiversary and into the summer.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:01 AM   #2764 (permalink)
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@joeisgonnakillyou I agree with all of your points. To me AJ makes way more sense than Double J.....
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:22 AM   #2765 (permalink)
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James Storm is probably the leader or at least a member of A&8s. Its pretty obvious now that I've seen them in close proximity. He fits in too well for him not to be the leader. AJ doesn't have the "IT" factor necessary to pull off leading a group like this, he doesn't look convincing in a biker-esque role, but Storm fits right in. Biker, is in some way a more modern version of the cowboy. Besides he's not doing a damn thing right now.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:26 AM   #2766 (permalink)
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If a HOF snub is the reason the Aces were brought in to TNA then Jarrett makes much more sense. AJ would have never been the face of the company if JJ never created the company.

Jeff Jarrett not only got snubbed on the HOF induction, but the guy who he was snubbed in favor of, is the same guy who fired him from TNA and sent him packing. In other words Sting has embarrassed Jarrett and Dixie and Hogan did nothing to stop it, and they have taken over his company and moved it forward without him.

If anything Jeff Jarrett recruiting AJ the man he made as the face of TNA to join Aces and 8's NOW makes much better storyline sense, that is if Jarrett is behind the Aces. He could promise to make AJ the face of the Aces and 8's and a World Champion once again.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:47 AM   #2767 (permalink)
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I think one thing a lot of these guesses is missing is the biker connection. Since the beginning I've been convinced it would be Bischoff because he's the only one on the roster I can think of that has any wrestling connection to bikes what so ever.

To me at least it makes absolutely no sense for a non biker wrestler like AJ or Jeff Jarrett to form a biker gang to take on a wrestling company.

Recently I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to guess any more. I want to sit back and enjoy this angle that has me asking a lot of questions (in a good way) like any other average fan. Whether the leader be Eric, JJ, or someone altogether new to TNA I want to be as surprised by it as I have by much of the rest of the angle.


As for AJ I get the feeling from the last couple Impacts that 4tune will re form.. Maybe not the week after next, but sometime soon imo. Maybe with Daniels replacing Storm. Just a lot of little foreshadowing moments I've noticed lately that lead me to believe it'll happen.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:49 AM   #2768 (permalink)
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All i know is this company is always very careful at making other people look like options and never seeing it coming just like devon.

Storm would be perfect but now ive seen him beat them aces a lot. AJ could be interesting after finaly seeing a edgy promo on impact. That would be to obvious now though.Since he pretty much said screw Impact Wrestling im on my own. Seems like a outlaw thing to do and obvious since we are all talking about him being the guy maybe. Still woud love to see it. AJ is boring me to death and needs a revamp.

Storm again did anyone notice his new tights the logo on the ass. The skull with a cowboy hat and some cards. The skull was the exact same one as the Aces logo plus cards. That could be just to obvious or meant to be a obvious clue. More likely a diversion

The fat leader seems horrible. Hopefully the leader kicks him out or something. Regardless at the end of the day. The leader is acutely very important. It has the be the right guy. Please just dont be some fucking ex big wrestler that no one cares about now

2 things. Could the real VP and the leader both not even have been seen yet ? We see that fat so called VP but maybe hes not acutely the guy.

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Old 12-14-2012, 11:57 AM   #2769 (permalink)
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I think one thing a lot of these guesses is missing is the biker connection. Since the beginning I've been convinced it would be Bischoff because he's the only one on the roster I can think of that has any wrestling connection to bikes what so ever.

To me at least it makes absolutely no sense for a non biker wrestler like AJ or Jeff Jarrett to form a biker gang to take on a wrestling company.

Recently I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to guess any more. I want to sit back and enjoy this angle that has me asking a lot of questions (in a good way) like any other average fan. Whether the leader be Eric, JJ, or someone altogether new to TNA I want to be as surprised by it as I have by much of the rest of the angle.


As for AJ I get the feeling from the last couple Impacts that 4tune will re form.. Maybe not the week after next, but sometime soon imo. Maybe with Daniels replacing Storm. Just a lot of little foreshadowing moments I've noticed lately that lead me to believe it'll happen.
Just because they don't have a "biker connection" doesn't mean someone can't be the leader. None of the current Aces & Eights members really have biker connections, they're just big and tough types. Although there's no doubt in my mind that Bischoff is the mind behind it at least creatively and backstage, I'm not so sure anymore that he'll end up being the leader. I think the leader will be someone that can hold their own in a fight, that can command respect, and not someone who's just a mouthpiece.
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Just because they don't have a "biker connection" doesn't mean someone can't be the leader. None of the current Aces & Eights members really have biker connections, they're just big and tough types. Although there's no doubt in my mind that Bischoff is the mind behind it at least creatively and backstage, I'm not so sure anymore that he'll end up being the leader. I think the leader will be someone that can hold their own in a fight, that can command respect, and not someone who's just a mouthpiece.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect everyone to be a biker in the group.. that's just asking for the moon. But for them to put together this whole biker gang scenario, set it up so well the way they have.. keep working it well with the masks, clubhouse entrance, and club camera man. and then just make the leader Jarrett or AJ.. That's lazy as fuck and would be horrible. Most of the guy in the stable (that we know so far, compton, Knox, DOC..) are people that were never hugely popular, and won't be known by everyone.. They can be put over as bikers. With DVon he had that whole thing about them welcoming him in and looking out for him (probably the thing I was least impressed with about the angle so far.. wish they'd done more thinking about how he ended up a part of the group.) The leader should definitely be a wrestler and a good one at that, but he also in my eyes HAS to have SOMETHING to do with bikes. If he doesn't the whole thing falls flat and looks bad, just like another immortal, or nexus, or any other group just with more of a gimmick.
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