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Old 12-13-2012, 03:47 PM   #2741 (permalink)
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I can see AJ joining now-ish as a prospect. But as President/VP ? Not seeing any sound reasoning, but maybe I am missing something.

The president was already in place when the angle started, someone sent these prospects to do his bidding. The VP has been a somewhat of a regular on TV, and has a body type nothing like AJ. As far as no one seeing it coming...you did, and others have mentioned him before in this thread, so it's not straight out of left field, but I do believe AJ is not a popular suspect. Kaz and Daniels would be something no one sees coming (but I don't think they are involved).

But given the timing what storyline reason would AJ have had to bring the group into TNA ?

Also consider what AJ said last week on the TNA conference call :



Can he fit into the group and play a lead character (or any character in this group) given his faith ?
I think he can. I think if anyone has a beef with Hogan "brother" it's AJ. AJ has been shunned from the world title picture ever since Hogan stepped in. If someone like Devon can go on and on about Hogan/Sting and how he never got a fair shake - imagine AJ? Storm has it made. They need him as a baby face because he's really "over" with the fans... AJ would also bring a lot more credibility to Aces & Eights. AJ also has beefs with someone like Roode - potentially jealous of his title run/push. More so than anyone else AJ fits the criteria .... with regards to his faith - I mean the guy is a wrestler and that's how he feeds his family. If violence was really an issue with his faith he would not even being wrestling in the first place....let alone allow himself to be in a Clare Lynch type storyline....

I also believe the triple crown champion would give Aces & Eights more credibility than Storm. A more believable reason for him to be the leader. Bring on a Jeff Jarret, and heck, even a Buff Bagwell and now things are getting interesting.

AJ STYLES for Prez....
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1- We do not know if Garrett is a member. We could even say the same about Wes, they could sub in Compton and swerve if they really wanted too, though I doubt that.

As for Garrett, he stopped DOC from nailing Angle with the hammer which questions whether he is just a warm body under a mask right now or not ? If he is not I'd expect him to be in some hot water with the Aces as they can easily point to that as the reason for losing the match. I think some of these subtle things they do or have done, are viewed by TNA as storyline progression, but they come off as so subtle that fans are taking notice.

2- RE : Roode's attack, they stated on twitter "Money talks, bullshit walks". And it makes sense...they are a supposed to be an outlaw motorcycle club (aka HEELS), thus taking Roode's money but not being his insurance policy works. It's a case of heels "out heeling" the heel.

Hardy is the Champion thus is always a target. Aries also was targeted when he was Champion. There is more here we have yet to learn and the dots will eventually be connected.
Hopefully. That was a good explanation.

At others saying AJ should join the Aces and Eights, I hope not.. he wouldnt fit in. Storm on the other hand is a perfect choice.
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:23 PM   #2743 (permalink)
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I think he can. I think if anyone has a beef with Hogan "brother" it's AJ. AJ has been shunned from the world title picture ever since Hogan stepped in. If someone like Devon can go on and on about Hogan/Sting and how he never got a fair shake - imagine AJ? Storm has it made. They need him as a baby face because he's really "over" with the fans... AJ would also bring a lot more credibility to Aces & Eights. AJ also has beefs with someone like Roode - potentially jealous of his title run/push. More so than anyone else AJ fits the criteria .... with regards to his faith - I mean the guy is a wrestler and that's how he feeds his family. If violence was really an issue with his faith he would not even being wrestling in the first place....let alone allow himself to be in a Clare Lynch type storyline....

I also believe the triple crown champion would give Aces & Eights more credibility than Storm. A more believable reason for him to be the leader. Bring on a Jeff Jarret, and heck, even a Buff Bagwell and now things are getting interesting.

AJ STYLES for Prez....
AJ Styles had 3 World Title shots in the last year, whereas James Storm had but one. If anyone fits as someone who came claim to be "disgruntled" with Hogan/Dixie/TNA it's the Cowboy.

James Storm lost his title to Roode and was NEVER given his rematch, like any Champion is entitled to. In fact Storm had to earn it, and had to take a backseat to Sting, Bully, AJ & Hardy during that time. It took Storm 6 months to get back into a title match. Storm revealed on Impact in November that Hogan sent him home post LD to get his head straight. And Storm was once again put in the back seat just a week or two before that on Championship Thursday, when Hogan chose Angle who was coming off of a tag team loss at BFG for the World Title Shot (whereas Storm had beaten Roode at BFG and was robbed of any chance of winning the BFGS by Roode). Instead Storm was shoved into a match where he risked losing the chance at a title shot until BFG 2013. Considering Storm's success in the BFGS and even through all of 2012, he should be the guy getting the "push"...his "storyline" fit into the Aces and 8's is arguably much greater than anyone else.

I fail to see where AJ has more beef with Hogan than Storm, or even Bully or Aries for that matter.
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AJ joining would only make sense NOW. If he turns out to be the president...then what's the motive? He's only now in the tailspin. But, this whole time he was plotting against the company? The plot hole there is huge and I don't think the reason TNA could try to come up with would be very logical.

I'm done speculating. It's either Bischoff or Jarrett, if not both in some capacity. If I'm wrong, well ok then. I've been sold on the "leader(s)" behind the Aces for a while now.
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AJ joining would only make sense NOW. If he turns out to be the president...then what's the motive? He's only now in the tailspin. But, this whole time he was plotting against the company? The plot hole there is huge and I don't think the reason TNA could try to come up with would be very logical.

I'm done speculating. It's either Bischoff or Jarrett, if not both in some capacity. If I'm wrong, well ok then. I've been sold on the "leader(s)" behind the Aces for a while now.
The Aces&Eights angle started after Sting's Slammiversary HOF announcement.
Makes perfect sense for AJ to be bitter about it after years and years of hard work and still not being recognized as THE TNA Legend.
Also, around that time, AJ was already in a downward spiral thanks to KAZ/Daniels.
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I know when Aces began.

Personal downward spiral. Not professional. Guy upped and beat them for the tag gold on his first try. Beat Daniels in Last Man Standing. Beat Daniels on a random Impact. Hasn't hasn't started losing till recently.

lol @ the reason possibly being AJ is bitter b/c TNA recognized a wrestling legend as the first HOF'er. That's so bad if it goes down like that.
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The only guy who has been screwed over and over again for the last year is Storm, him plotting against the company would make more sense than AJ about whom it has been shown that he has a great business relation with his boss.
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The ending at the PPV where Garrett distracted Kurt and Wes speared DOC to save him from getting hit with the hammer by Kurt, was subtle enough to obviously go unnoticed by many. I personally thought it was a nice touch, and when a reveal comes they can use the footage of them saving a fellow brother, not infact trying to win the match.
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I know when Aces began.

Personal downward spiral. Not professional. Guy upped and beat them for the tag gold on his first try. Beat Daniels in Last Man Standing. Beat Daniels on a random Impact. Hasn't hasn't started losing till recently.

lol @ the reason possibly being AJ is bitter b/c TNA recognized a wrestling legend as the first HOF'er. That's so bad if it goes down like that.
- Professionally, he got owned by Roode, lost the tag "gold" in less than one month and was the laughing stock of impact wrestling every dam week.
But that's only one factor because it's a emotional change in character caused by KAZ/Daniels turning on him.

- What's so bad about that? Sting, Jarrett and Styles were all good options.
Out of these 3 AJ is without a doubt the hardest working guy.
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It's beyond petty.

"I should have been the first name in the TNA Hall of Fame. So I created this biker gang to get revenge."

Umm. Not good. Not good at all.
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