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Old 11-27-2012, 09:01 AM   #2551 (permalink)
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By the way Garrett being a part of A&E just makes it even more likely that Eric Bischoff's behind this. The moment they put Garrett on TV he was bound to be a heel alongside his father at least once.

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Isn't even dressed like an Aces and Eights members. My guess would be he's handpicked by them and being scouted to become a member.
First you deny that it's Garrett in one of those suits and mask on Impact even though the tattoo's are clearly the same and his build. Now you make a comment like this. It's like you're trying to keep kayfabe alive. Knox has been in the group since the start and I don't get why they didn't just reveal him right after Gallows so they can be a tag team. It's no surprise to the people who know who Mike Knox is that it's him under the mask, and the others who don't know or remember him for the WWE won't be surprised by it anyway, he's not a big name.

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Gallows
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Brisco

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I get it just pointing out he other then tagging with D.O.C he isn't really repping Aces and Eights.
So apart from tag teaming with a member of the Aces and Eights, walking to the ring with two indy geeks wearing Ace and Eights masks, wrestling on an indy show being billed as a member of the Aces and Eights and actually being a member of Aces and Eights on TNA under a mask, there's no real coincidence there. Fair enough.

I once thought I saw Rey Mysterio at an airport. I didn't think it was him though. Sure he was 5'3, he had "619" tattooed on his arms and looked like the guy from WCW, but without the mask I just assumed it was someone else.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:09 AM   #2553 (permalink)
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Completely missing the point of what I said they are trying to kayfabe it as Knox isn't a member by having him dress differently. Looks at Gallows and D-Von's attire as opposed to what his attire is right now.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:49 AM   #2554 (permalink)
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Bischoff
Devon
Gallows
Knox
Garrett
Brisco

Yuck.
Don't forget D-Lo!

- Has been dressing as the VP
- Nowhere to be seen last week when the "road agents" came out for the save
- Was insisting with Angle that Wes Brisco get a Gutcheck spot
- Was told by Prichard that he has to smarten up and do his job

This stable is going to be hilarious. I can't wait.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:10 AM   #2555 (permalink)
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Knox
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Brisco

Yuck.
Agreed!

I think the fact that they're filling the group with "lesser names" makes it more likely that whoever ends up being in charge will either also be a "lesser name" or someone who's just a mouthpiece like Eric Bischoff. If they really were planning on having someone like Batista or Goldberg or whoever be the president, I think the make up of the group would be a lot different.
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When you look at the list of names it is sort of hilarious but, thinking about it, this is a pretty good way to introduce a few guys who otherwise wouldn't have had much of a debut. At least Gallows, for example, has a name and a character that lets the audience identify him as not just Random Wrestler who was looking for a job. And god knows Garrett needs all the help he can get building some sort of role for himself.

Assuming those guys are the ones (though the final crew may be slightly different...), given that list, I could write a credible scenario for them to be teaming up. I'd think of it as a fun challenge – make these guys look badass, motivated and important. It wouldn't hurt to switch out a few of them and bring in others that would fit the whole biker gang of unappreciated wrestlers theme better, but it could still work if done right.

Now don't think I have my hopes up that they'll make this into something epic where its all gone a bit directionless, but the initial idea has promise and it could still be pulled together if they start moving the plot forward.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:04 AM   #2557 (permalink)
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Anyone give thought to the word "Nomads" on the shirts/vests these guys wear? Maybe it means that they are all nomads in the wrestling profession...someone who has been in multiple companies and never really settled in. If that's the case, the leader will be someone who has been moving around all the time.
Nomads in MC's are full patched members of the MC but not affiliated with any one particular chapter, they usually cover or span a vast region. As an example, Maurice "Mom" Boucher was the president of the Montreal Chapter of the HA. In the 90's he started a Nomad's chapter that spanned the entire province of Quebec and parts of eastern Ontario. Thus this chapter was now controlling or attempting to control more than just a major metropolitan area but now an entire province and them some.

In this case these "Nomads" will not just cover TNA but Indy feds as well (as we now see DOC showing up to Indy shows sporting his full patch. Knox is not in A&8's gear likely due to him being booked and advertised BEFORE they revealed DOC and they are not about to "give away" that he is a member.)

Knox may or may not even end up getting a patch...considering the way they have booked and shown how members gain membership, I'd guess someone from the group at some point is going to be refused membership and have his cut taken.

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By the way Garrett being a part of A&E just makes it even more likely that Eric Bischoff's behind this. The moment they put Garrett on TV he was bound to be a heel alongside his father at least once.
A lot of assumptions, but no facts. Garrett may be under a mask but that does not mean he will be revealed as a prospect, it is very possible he is just a stand in for right now. Even if and or when he would be revealed it does not mean he will become patched in to the group.

You also assume if Garrett is involved then Eric is. Eric has stated he is happy not being on TV and his no desire to return as a character, sure he could be working the fans with that statement, or not. I don't believe that Eric or TNA feels some need to have them work alongside each other, that's just a random guess or assumption on your part.
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Nomads in MC's are full patched members of the MC but not affiliated with any one particular chapter, they usually cover or span a vast region. As an example, Maurice "Mom" Boucher was the president of the Montreal Chapter of the HA. In the 90's he started a Nomad's chapter that spanned the entire province of Quebec and parts of eastern Ontario. Thus this chapter was now controlling or attempting to control more than just a major metropolitan area but now an entire province and them some.

In this case these "Nomads" will not just cover TNA but Indy feds as well (as we now see DOC showing up to Indy shows sporting his full patch. Knox is not in A&8's gear likely due to him being booked and advertised BEFORE they revealed DOC and they are not about to "give away" that he is a member.)

Knox may or may not even end up getting a patch...considering the way they have booked and shown how members gain membership, I'd guess someone from the group at some point is going to be refused membership and have his cut taken.



A lot of assumptions, but no facts. Garrett may be under a mask but that does not mean he will be revealed as a prospect, it is very possible he is just a stand in for right now. Even if and or when he would be revealed it does not mean he will become patched in to the group.

You also assume if Garrett is involved then Eric is. Eric has stated he is happy not being on TV and his no desire to return as a character, sure he could be working the fans with that statement, or not. I don't believe that Eric or TNA feels some need to have them work alongside each other, that's just a random guess or assumption on your part.
See you get it Knox has been used on iMPACT as an Aces and Eight member but he isn't officially a member yet hence why he's dressed differently while tagging with DOC at the indy show. If he was a full fledged member he would have the vest as they pretty much showed you need it to be a member of iMPACT when they were deciding DOC's future and they toke it away from him until he got patched in.
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A lot of assumptions, but no facts. Garrett may be under a mask but that does not mean he will be revealed as a prospect, it is very possible he is just a stand in for right now. Even if and or when he would be revealed it does not mean he will become patched in to the group.

You also assume if Garrett is involved then Eric is. Eric has stated he is happy not being on TV and his no desire to return as a character, sure he could be working the fans with that statement, or not. I don't believe that Eric or TNA feels some need to have them work alongside each other, that's just a random guess or assumption on your part.
I'm pretty sure Garrett will end up being revealed as a member but yeah whether he ends up being patched in to the group is another story.

I do agree that Garrett's potential involvement in the group does not automatically mean Eric is the leader. Eric very well may be the brains behind the operation in terms of backstage involvement but that's probably the extent of it.
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There is one way this angle can be a small threat to WWE.

The leaders of A&8s before a 6 man tag match at a PPV. So you have Angle/Sting/Bully Ray in the ring and out come Edge, Christian with Tomko and DeVon as the leaders. So then Edge says wait a minute if Im Nash, and you are Hall, we still need a Hogan and out comes Hulk Hogan with Eric Bischoff as the 3rd member to an NWO-esque theme. So once Hulk enters the ring and high fives Edge and Christian they start making fun of Hogan and Bischoff calling them washed-up has been corporate losers and then "Impact is Jericho" hits.
Eight man tag Angle/Sting/Hogan/Bully (with Bischoff as manager) vs. Jericho/Christian/Tomko/Devon (with Edge as manager).
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