[charmed1]

Originally Posted by Theproof

You're way off. The main thing I'm questioning him about is the "vegetables" comment. I'm sure he doesn't completely hate TNA and I really don't care if he does. I just think it's a little bit ridiculous to call everyone that likes it "easy to please".

Thats what got to mean. Seriously you can criticize all you want but his comments got more and more insulting and personal as he went along.

I still think it was a legit question though, if the major storyline fills him with such venomous rage that his only responses are just complete insults of people who enjoy or watch the show then it does beg the question "why do you watch?" Its already been said this is going to be the major storyline throughout the show for a few more months.

Calling me a moron, or fans that watch it vegetables doesnt give a compelling arguement.

[MTheBehemoth]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

I have no idea what that quote was meant to mean.

You just basically said that Aces&8s ruin their PPV buys, yet they have only 1 match on TNA ppvs.

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

And that's why TNA has done the lowest ratings they've ever done for a Thursday night ever recently. Because people changed the channel when they didn't like something. Unlike them, I'm more loyal and still stick it out.

Well, that's not me. I quit watching TNA in 2007 (thanks, Russo) and only recently came back. Ratings are TNA's problems, not mine.

[Diesel_Power]

Originally Posted by MTheBehemoth

You just basically said that Aces&8s ruin their PPV buys, yet they have only 1 match on TNA ppvs.

Yes, and you had to go back and edit your post to actually make sense out of it. I got it now.

[Diesel_Power]

Originally Posted by charmed1

I still think it was a legit question though, if the major storyline fills him with such venomous rage that his only responses are just complete insults of people who enjoy or watch the show then it does beg the question "why do you watch?" Its already been said this is going to be the major storyline throughout the show for a few more months.

If every loyal fan had the attitude of "I'll just not watch anymore", there would be no television industry. Fans in all walks of entertainment criticize. Its what makes them fans. If I watch The Shield, and it has a string of terrible episodes, I'll stick around and watch because I have faith it'll get better eventually. But I have every write to state my opinion of it when its terrible. And I'll still buy the DVDs when it comes out. Then there are other fans who just sit and watch and don't really care and will dip in and out if they aren't interested and wont buy the DVDs or think about it any other time of the day or night other than when its on TV. Every show has these types of fans. The fact I stick around makes me far more loyal than a lot of viewers.

TNA sucks at the moment. But they still have Kurt Angle. Aries and Hardy will still tear it up. Bobby Roode is still great and AJ Styles will be put out amazing matches. That will do for me. I will put up with this Aces and 8s crap if it means watching these guys.

[charmed1]

Originally Posted by MTheBehemoth

Well, that's not me. I quit watching TNA in 2007 (thanks, Russo) and only recently came back. Ratings are TNA's problems, not mine.

To be fair ratings are bad all over with wrestling. It isn't TNA specific. Wrestling has always gone in cycles and right now its on a down cycle no matter how good or bad the programming is, if no one is watching wrestling(its not popular) you can have the greatest storyline in the world and it won't make a difference.

I understand your Russo pain.

[charmed1]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

If every loyal fan had the attitude of "I'll just not watch anymore", there would be no television industry. Fans in all walks of entertainment criticize. Its what makes them fans. If I watch The Shield, and it has a string of terrible episodes, I'll stick around and watch because I have faith it'll get better eventually. But I have every write to state my opinion of it when its terrible. And I'll still buy the DVDs when it comes out. Then there are other fans who just sit and watch and don't really care and will dip in and out if they aren't interested and wont buy the DVDs or think about it any other time of the day or night other than when its on TV. Every show has these types of fans. The fact I stick around makes me far more loyal than a lot of viewers.

TNA sucks at the moment. But they still have Kurt Angle. Aries and Hardy will still tear it up. Bobby Roode is still great and AJ Styles will be put out amazing matches. That will do for me.

No one was questioning your loyalty..Its how you presented yourself. You insulted everyone who did like the storyline and pretty much told us our opinions didn't count.

You can state an opinion without belittling others completely.

What I said was that its basic booking 101 leave the big reveals for the big shows.

[Diesel_Power]

Originally Posted by charmed1

What I said was that its basic booking 101 leave the big reveals for the big shows.

Like Devon. At the biggest show of the year.

Basic Booking 101 doesn't include Joseph Park's getting kidnapped and having his head bashed in with a hammer. That's anti-booking.

[charmed1]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

Like Devon. At the biggest show of the year.

Basic Booking 101 doesn't include Joseph Park's getting kidnapped and having his head bashed in with a hammer. That's anti-booking.

Actually I liked the Devon reveal. I was expecting something bigger to and I thought WTH for a minute than I realized, IMO, this worked better than a big reveal because Devon was gone. Everyone thought he was gone and right now we have no idea if people are left the company for sure or its going to turn out storyline. For me thats good booking because it gives wrestling an unpredictablity that it hasn't had in a long time. Fans cannot go online and just figure this one out and thats a good thing.

As for the kidnapping..its a common wrestling storyline done many many times.

The way I see the big show reveal is they could've had one big reveal that had people tune in for maybe the next month and hope to get them or do the slow burn reveal that is more intriguing not because of who it is but what it implies.

[Superior Quality]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

This isnt "Who Shot JR" you dope. Its a shitty Sons of Anarchy rip-off featuring ex WWE midcarders. You can use all the junior psychology you want, but the fact is nobody is into this except a bunch of easily pleased vegetables who watch TNA every week. It isn't just the internet who aren't into this. If people were into this Aces and 8s crap do you think Bound For Glory would have done lower than its done in years? do you think if people were desperate to see the Aces and 8s the viewership following Bound For Glory would have been the lowest its been after BFG since 2007? Its been going on since May or June and all we know is that Devon Dudley and Festus are members in this group. Its a truly rotten angle and the people have voted with their remotes. Maybe its you who doesn't "GET IT".

It's not all jobbers from wwe, there are few who came from else where.

[MTheBehemoth]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Power

And I'll still buy the DVDs when it comes out.

So you don't like the show - Yet you still buy the DVD. You don't like a storyline - You're not changing the channel during that segment. And you are voicing your opinion via bitching on a random forum......................... What!?