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Old 10-17-2012, 11:19 AM   #1941 (permalink)
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If G. Bischoff is in aces and eights then it makes sense now because Devon is in it. But yeah I don't care who the members are, I jusy want to know who is behind this. JJ being leader wouldn't make sense now, I just hope someone like EY is the leader.
I agree with you that Garrett is likely to be a member of AA's. He has been acting as Devons sidekick for a while now but that is not the only reason. If you go back a few weeks there was a backstage segment with Hogan where he informs Garrett that he won't be competeing for the TV title. the camera zooms in one Garrett and you see him giving Hogan a funny look before walking away and I think this was a big clue by TNA that Garrett is going to be a member.

As far as who the other members are then I would say that your going to have easy e as the Leader with Brisco as a reguler member with Gallow's and Knox as possible members also. As far as who the VP is i'm Expecting a big surprise when the mask finally comes off.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:19 PM   #1942 (permalink)
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By: Thomas Sanders of IMPACTWrestling.com

The Aces and 8s gang has been tormenting the IMPACT WRESTLING superstars since the beginning of this year’s “Bound for Glory Series;” but even the mighty duo of the “Icon” Sting and Bully Ray weren’t able to finish them off on TNA’s biggest stage. The gang’s name derives from the “dead man’s hand,” a poker hand with two black aces and two black eights that as legend has it, “Wild” Bill Hickok held as he was shot from behind by “Broken Nose” Jack McCall. Before this modern day incarnation started assaulting our superstars, the Aces and 8s preferred to scatter the “dead man’s hand” around the IMPACT Zone as ominous warnings of what was to come.

The warnings evolved into threats, and the threats eventually became attacks. In his fit of rage at “Bound for Glory,” Hulk Hogan unmasked former superstar Devon as the first confirmed traitor to have aligned himself with the Aces and 8s; but with the gang now controlling the IMPACT Zone, is it too late to save everything that TNA has built? Let’s take a look back to see where everything went so wrong.

On the June 14 edition of IMPACT, three masked men mysteriously attacked the “Icon” Sting as he humbly discussed his induction into the TNA Hall of Fame. In the IMPACT Zone, even bitter enemies fight with honor and respect, so when the masked attackers vanished for three weeks, their intentions became increasingly ambiguous. On July 5, Hulk Hogan received a package containing the “dead man’s hand” and a note that read, “We’re not cowards, we’ve got something for you Hogan, wait and see!”

Hogan didn’t have to wait very long, because on July 12, the Aces and 8s injured him during one of their signature attacks backstage. The next week on IMPACT, the gang jumped Kurt Angle, Austin Aries, and even a “Gut Check” hopeful during his live tryout. By this point, nobody on the TNA roster felt safe, so naturally hysteria began to ensue. On July 26, Sting presented evidence that the “Cowboy” James Storm was behind the Aces and 8s, which led to the entire IMPACT roster coming out to defend the ring during Storm’s match later that night.

With “Hardcore Justice” just around the corner at the time, the threat of more attacks loomed large over the IMPACT Zone on August 9. That night the gang only surfaced in a series of videos, which led to mounting suspicions about the “Cowboy’s” involvement. Four days later the Aces and 8s made their first Pay-Per-View appearance by attacking the “Pope” D’Angelo Dinero and later fulfilling their promise to target Bully Ray by interfering in the evening’s four-way tables match. The gang had become a constant threat to the superstars’ careers, as the hospital bills mounted while the attacks were growing in severity.

Tensions hit a breaking point on the August 23 edition of IMPACT: an all-out brawl erupted in the ring, the locker room, and even the parking lot. Austin Aries, who was TNA World Heavyweight Champion at the time, sustained a nasty injury to his arm from one of the gang members, and then the following week he took another shot which left him unconscious.

At “No Surrender” on September 9, the gang tried to affect the outcome of the Bound for Glory Series by fighting the TNA roster yet again in the locker room. The “Charismatic Enigma” Jeff Hardy felt the pain of a shoulder injury at the ruthless hands of the gang, but still managed to pull off an improbable victory against Bully Ray that night thanks to more interference. The loss would fuel Bully Ray to step up at “Bound for Glory” to volunteer as Sting’s partner against the Aces and 8s, but first the gang was about to up the stakes yet again.

September 20 marked the first kidnapping in the IMPACT Zone, which the Aces and 8s pulled off without a hitch. The gang took Hogan and Sting into their clubhouse and demanded a tag team match as a caged Joseph Park looked on in fear. With more brutal beatings happening every week and now a hostage situation at hand, Hogan had no choice but to grant the gang their match.

Sting and Bully Ray had control of the “No Disqualifications Match” at “Bound for Glory,” but as Wild Bill Hickok knows all too well: never turn your back on the “dead man’s hand.” The Aces and 8s dishonored their tag team agreement, swarmed the “Bound for Glory” ring and claimed victory. Nobody knows what the future holds for the IMPACT WRESTLING roster, which is now at the mercy of the Aces and 8s; all we know is that the gang is savage, unpredictable, and being helped by Devon, a man who knows exactly how to hit the superstars where it hurts most.
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Good summary, unfortunately TNA have now dropped the ball with Aces and 8s.

1) At BDG the allowed all of Aces and 8s to be beaten up by an over the hill Hogan.
2) They revealed Devon to be an member, Devon a wrestler in his twilight years whom has never been over as a singles wrestler. Do TNA seriously think everyone down in NY are quaking at Devon being revealed as an member or leader of Aces and 8s.

The solution, Aces and 8s shoul have steamrollered Sting and Hogan at BFG, perhaps the ego's of Hogan and Sting did not want this to happen.

No way should Devon had been revealed as an member.

I can name countless wrestlers in TNA who would have been a much better choice and had a better impact than Devon in this roll.

1) Matt Morgan
2) Mr Anderson
3) AJ Styles
4) Magnus
5) RVD
6) Kurt Angle
7) Hell even Gunner or Crimson.

But Devon - Why??? Way to go to ruin a storyline TNA.

Imagine if WCW had employed this type of booking with the NwO back in the 80's, no doubt we would have seen Dusty Rhodes running down and punching out Nash, Hall and Hogan, unless of course the big reveal at Bash at the beach had turned out to be Vincent turning on WCW with Nash and Hall.

Hopeless booking by TNA in my view.
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Good summary, unfortunately TNA have now dropped the ball with Aces and 8s.

1) At BDG the allowed all of Aces and 8s to be beaten up by an over the hill Hogan.
2) They revealed Devon to be an member, Devon a wrestler in his twilight years whom has never been over as a singles wrestler. Do TNA seriously think everyone down in NY are quaking at Devon being revealed as an member or leader of Aces and 8s.

The solution, Aces and 8s shoul have steamrollered Sting and Hogan at BFG, perhaps the ego's of Hogan and Sting did not want this to happen.

No way should Devon had been revealed as an member.

I can name countless wrestlers in TNA who would have been a much better choice and had a better impact than Devon in this roll.

1) Matt Morgan
2) Mr Anderson
3) AJ Styles
4) Magnus
5) RVD
6) Kurt Angle
7) Hell even Gunner or Crimson.

But Devon - Why??? Way to go to ruin a storyline TNA.

Imagine if WCW had employed this type of booking with the NwO back in the 80's, no doubt we would have seen Dusty Rhodes running down and punching out Nash, Hall and Hogan, unless of course the big reveal at Bash at the beach had turned out to be Vincent turning on WCW with Nash and Hall.

Hopeless booking by TNA in my view.
While I agree they missed the boat with devon, hogan defeated a bunch of prospects not official members. It's the equivalent of dusty rhodes running down and punching syxx and buff bagwell.

These 4 weeks leading up to turning point will be very important to make this angle successful (or not) they need to shock us again this thursday, but not in the devon way... a good surprise this time.
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I'm sorry but I can't put any faith in this Aces and 8s storyline now that Devon has been revealed to be a member.
At the match he was shouting "It was me all along"!!!!.
A load of BS.

Aces and 8s could have been and should have been so much more.
Instead we have devon revealed for no logical reason, he was TV champion, what gripe can he have against TNA.
Madness - add the fact that Devon has never been a very good wrestler and his one gimmick is to shout "Testify" - this was a bizarre and made piece of booking - given a prime role to one of the lads I guess.

Myself I would have ended the match with Hogan receiving an Carbon footprint from a masked Matt Morgan, Matt Morgan could have then taken off his mask and revealed himself as an member of Aces and 8s.

I mean WTF was Matt Morgan getting involved in the pointless match between Joey Ryan and Al Snow.

TNA amazes me a times.
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Good job Prospect.

Devon is a prospect, not a official member.
Most of the attacks were done by the bottom of the food chain like this guy:


The VP appeared only a couple of times telling the young guys what to do and the pres. showed up one time talking to hogan and sting. I'm not expecting much from this angle either but I'm gonna watch it until the end before jumping into conclusions.

ps: matt morgan can go fuck himself, I take devon over him.
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Good job Prospect.

Devon is a prospect, not a official member.
Most of the attacks were done by the bottom of the food chain like this guy:


The VP appeared only a couple of times telling the young guys what to do and the pres. showed up one time talking to hogan and sting. I'm not expecting much from this angle either but I'm gonna watch it until the end before jumping into conclusions.

ps: matt morgan can go fuck himself, I take devon over him.


It hasnt been defined yet.
Devon was shouted at the end of the match "that it was him all along".
Either the booking was not explained to him that he was a prospect and not the leader or TNA were booking in the fly and sent that tweet to rectify the mistake at BFG.

Does not give you much confidence in the future of Aces and 8s.

Also on the official Impact wrestling website it states in the BFG match report that Devon was revealed as leader of Aces and 8s.

I fully expect TNA to reverse this decision tomorrow, and explain that Devon is just a member but it does not make booking sense, why on earth would Devon turn on TNA when TNA had given him the chance to be TV Champion etc and especially considering his full face turn prior.

Anyway, once the writers at TNA realize that no one is tha bothered by Devon being an member they will change that decision, I would not be at all surprised to see Devon in the ring with Aces and 8s and get the thumbs down from the other members and be set upon by them.
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I can't believe some are still complaining about the Devon reveal. I think it did perfectly what it should. Theres even a bigger mystery and air of unpredictability to the program and it baffles me there are some that still don't get it.
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I can't believe some are still complaining about the Devon reveal. I think it did perfectly what it should. Theres even a bigger mystery and air of unpredictability to the program and it baffles me there are some that still don't get it.
So please enlightened me.

1) What did the Devon reveal do perfectly?
2) What do we need to get about the Devon reveal?


You have unpredictability and then you have a cluster****

And the Devon reveal was a cluster**** on many levels.

1) Even TNA, Devon and the twitter account of Aces and 8s are confused over something as simple as whether Devon is the leader of Aces and 8s or an prospect.

2) Devon coming out the stupid statement after the match that "He was behind Aces and 8s all along".


Basically an allmighty cluster**** but if you want to confirm it is genius booking by being unpredictable then go ahead.

Even when you consider that Devon was an face who turned, the majority of the fans in TNA and worldwide have no emotional attachment to the Devon character so his turn had zero effect.

If TNA wanted to turn a face for shock value then at least choose a face whom the majority of fans care about/support and have an emotional attachment to.

That is why the Hogan turn, when he joined the NWO worked and why this Devon turn will have no effect.

The only faces in TNA who could have pulled off joining Aces were James Storm, AJ Styles or Sting.
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It hasnt been defined yet.
Devon was shouted at the end of the match "that it was him all along".
Either the booking was not explained to him that he was a prospect and not the leader or TNA were booking in the fly and sent that tweet to rectify the mistake at BFG.

Does not give you much confidence in the future of Aces and 8s.

Also on the official Impact wrestling website it states in the BFG match report that Devon was revealed as leader of Aces and 8s.

I fully expect TNA to reverse this decision tomorrow, and explain that Devon is just a member but it does not make booking sense, why on earth would Devon turn on TNA when TNA had given him the chance to be TV Champion etc and especially considering his full face turn prior.

Anyway, once the writers at TNA realize that no one is tha bothered by Devon being an member they will change that decision, I would not be at all surprised to see Devon in the ring with Aces and 8s and get the thumbs down from the other members and be set upon by them.
- Where in the blue hell says devon is the leader? He hasn't wearing the official A&8's therefore he isn't VP or Pres.

"The Aces & 8s beat Sting and Bully Ray - after the bout, Devon was revealed to be with the Aces & 8s!"

"Also at "Bound For Glory", to the total shock of Brother Ray and the entire wrestling world, DEVON was revealed with The Aces & 8s! Now that he has been exposed, what will be the fallout? What does the gang have planned next? Don't miss Thursday's broadcast!"

zero about his position in aces and eights

- Hogan supported the same guy that "bullied" devon for years, and nobody gave a shit about him when his contract expired. He has all the reasons in the world to hate hogan, specially when they took the tv title from his hands just like that.

In conclusion, devon turning makes sense. He's just not the right guy for the job.
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