Seems like everyone is starting to say the same thing. Bobby Roode is the leader. It makes sense that He can't go for the belt again, so makes others do his dirty work; the main talker is D'Lo Brown, Hence the gloves and full face mask. Wes Brisco is on the group, then we have knox, gallows, Even ODB and EY are mentioned, kris parvone seems to be there too. and many others from the developmental regions playing the part until the real members are revealed. By the time the PPV comes around, Roode will have his boys take out the weaker member to ensure that Aries looses his belt so Roode can re attempt to win it back. (Maybe Aries loses and then regains it making it possible for Roode to go for the belt again.
- In TNA's new mentally of world champions Austin Aries will retain until Lockdown. If he loses before BFG the greatest man that ever lived becomes the greatest transitional champion that ever lived.
- Giving a random title shot to a random masked man while 12 wrestlers are killing each other for months to get one, destroys the whole concept of BFG series.
Aries was never meant to be "the man". If it wasn't for Destination X, he would not have won the world title. Once he won it has always been just a matter of time, when he would lose it back to Roode.
I agree with you second point. But that's how it's always been. Between Rumble and Mania, lots of guys get a title shot (for example Elimination Chamber). The winner of the BFG series not only gets a title shot but also the main event spot at BFG, that's bigger than getting a title shot at No Surrender, that's the point.
And storywise it makes sense. Aries has already called out one member to face him. Maybe next time, one member accepts the challenge but only if Aries puts the title on the line. Aries of course accepts, since he's supposed to be a fighting champion.
No Surrender also needs a world title match on the card by the way.
Aries was never meant to be "the man". If it wasn't for Destination X, he would not have won the world title. Once he won it has always been just a matter of time, when he would lose it back to Roode.
I agree with you second point. But that's how it's always been. Between Rumble and Mania, lots of guys get a title shot (for example Elimination Chamber). The winner of the BFG series not only gets a title shot but also the main event spot at BFG, that's bigger than getting a title shot at No Surrender, that's the point.
And storywise it makes sense. Aries has already called out one member to face him. Maybe next time, one member accepts the challenge but only if Aries puts the title on the line. Aries of course accepts, since he's supposed to be a fighting champion.
No Surrender also needs a world title match on the card by the way.
How can you say Aries wasn't meant to be the man when he defeated the longest reigning tna world champion ever clean twice? Unless you have inside information on this I don't get it. It reminds me of early 2012 when every time roode faced someone the entire IWC would go batshit insane "oh my gawd! hardy vs roode, no way in hell he retains #paperchamp"
Royal Rumble is the perfect example of how a good concept got fucked up by bad booking, WWE's lack of long term storytelling made wrestlemania world title matches feel less important year by year. I advise TNA to avoid this at all cost.
No Surrender focus is the BFG finals, I've been saying for a long ass time the world championship doesn't have to be defended in every ppv. I don't know when this started but WCW during the good years made title matches limited and special.
Looking at last year who gave a fuck about sting vs angle vs anderson? It was all about Roode/Storm and Bully Ray vs Roode had main event all over it.
Austin Aries needs to be there as a commentator in the final and sell the injury but that's it.
Yeah, World Titles in the old days weren't defended every event. I remember the champ sometimes wouldn't be on every show as his appearance was suppose to be a special markout moment. Like Oh Mah Gawd; Flair is in NWAromotion A tonight
How can you say Aries wasn't meant to be the man when he defeated the longest reigning tna world champion ever clean twice? Unless you have inside information on this I don't get it. It reminds me of early 2012 when every time roode faced someone the entire IWC would go batshit insane "oh my gawd! hardy vs roode, no way in hell he retains #paperchamp"
Royal Rumble is the perfect example of how a good concept got fucked up by bad booking, WWE's lack of long term storytelling made wrestlemania world title matches feel less important year by year. I advise TNA to avoid this at all cost.
No Surrender focus is the BFG finals, I've been saying for a long ass time the world championship doesn't have to be defended in every ppv. I don't know when this started but WCW during the good years made title matches limited and special.
Looking at last year who gave a fuck about sting vs angle vs anderson? It was all about Roode/Storm and Bully Ray vs Roode had main event all over it.
Austin Aries needs to be there as a commentator in the final and sell the injury but that's it.
After Roode beat Storm at Lockdown, TNA planned on having the big rematch at BFG, where Storm would finally beat Roode. So if anyone beat Roode before BFG, it's clear he would just be a transitional champion.
Ok, the Rumble doesn't mean as much as it once did, I agree. However, let's take a look at 2001, for example. Austin won the Rumble. According to you, nobody should have been able to challenge Angle until mania, which of course would have meant Austin vs Angle (not Rock) at mania 17. Wrestlemania would have bombed.
Again, the Rumble win, as well as the BFG series, guarantees a title shot at the biggest PPV of the year. This is not the same as being the number one (and only) contender.
After Roode beat Storm at Lockdown, TNA planned on having the big rematch at BFG, where Storm would finally beat Roode. So if anyone beat Roode before BFG, it's clear he would just be a transitional champion.
Ok, the Rumble doesn't mean as much as it once did, I agree. However, let's take a look at 2001, for example. Austin won the Rumble. According to you, nobody should have been able to challenge Angle until mania, which of course would have meant Austin vs Angle (not Rock) at mania 17. Wrestlemania would have bombed.
Again, the Rumble win, as well as the BFG series, guarantees a title shot at the biggest PPV of the year. This is not the same as being the number one (and only) contender.
It's clear you think aries is going to be a transitional champion and I think he's gonna be something bigger than that, I guess we have to wait and see.
Attitude Era's booking isn't as perfect as people think, the amount of talent made it look good but sometimes they made huge mistakes and stupid decisions regarding the WWF championship.
Why isnt anyone talking about who that guy is that hit aries with the flapjack? He looked liked hardy but obviously he wasn't, and he wasn't wearing aces and eights gear.
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Why isnt anyone talking about who that guy is that hit aries with the flapjack? He looked liked hardy but obviously he wasn't, and he wasn't wearing aces and eights gear.
He is likely a member, just wasn't wearing his cut or his mask so he could sneak through the brouhaha undetected and lay Aries out.
The Aces and 8's continue to divide and conquer by way of diversions to get their job done.
After Roode beat Storm at Lockdown, TNA planned on having the big rematch at BFG, where Storm would finally beat Roode. So if anyone beat Roode before BFG, it's clear he would just be a transitional champion.
Ok, the Rumble doesn't mean as much as it once did, I agree. However, let's take a look at 2001, for example. Austin won the Rumble. According to you, nobody should have been able to challenge Angle until mania, which of course would have meant Austin vs Angle (not Rock) at mania 17. Wrestlemania would have bombed.
Again, the Rumble win, as well as the BFG series, guarantees a title shot at the biggest PPV of the year. This is not the same as being the number one (and only) contender.
How do you know TNA planned for Storm to beat Roode at BFG? That may have never been the plan.
After Roode beat Storm at Lockdown, TNA planned on having the big rematch at BFG, where Storm would finally beat Roode. So if anyone beat Roode before BFG, it's clear he would just be a transitional champion.
Ok, the Rumble doesn't mean as much as it once did, I agree. However, let's take a look at 2001, for example. Austin won the Rumble. According to you, nobody should have been able to challenge Angle until mania, which of course would have meant Austin vs Angle (not Rock) at mania 17. Wrestlemania would have bombed.
Again, the Rumble win, as well as the BFG series, guarantees a title shot at the biggest PPV of the year. This is not the same as being the number one (and only) contender.
Somewhere in between London and Nashville Aries became a face. In both cities he was one of the biggest pops of the night. In April everyone thought Storm was going to be the next top guy, but after Lockdown Storm took his ball and went home. The fans reaction was "how can we get behind this guy if he's just gonna cry like a bitch and leave". The next couple of months you were left with guys like RVD, Hardy, Angle and Styles. As good to great as those guys are, people wanted something else. Enter Austin Aries. The guy's been having match of the night ever since he returned in July 2011. So what do you do when you have a guy that's the total package and has the fans support? You give him the top prize in your company and let him lead the way. Even 'injured' Aries will still come out to fight eight members of a biker gang. That's not an over confident "transitional" champion, that's a 5'8 man you don't fuck with.
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