Sting - 49
Kevin Nash - 48
Scott Steiner - 45
Kip James - 44
Booker T - 43
Jeff Jarrett - 41
Kurt Angle - 39
Dustin Rhodes - 39
B.G. James - 38
This is the age of some of the top stars in TNA Wrestling. Reading This message board has me wondering if i'm the only one concerned with the state of TNA. They focus their entire show around these oldies, and the reason they do that is because they are established, and I suppose they think established wrestlers will generate ratings. But they are sadly mistaken. The only thing that will generate ratings for TNA is to build their up their own product, by establishing their own young talent. They finally made a small step in the right direction by giving Joe the title -- but now what? They haven't developed any of their OTHER young talent. So now Joe is left to I guess try and carry these has-beens because there is nobody else for him to feud with.
The only relatively young guys I can think of in the HW division that are anywhere close to established besides Joe.. are Christian Cage, and Abyss. Beyond that, who is there? There's nobody.
The reason for this? TNA's insistance on making Kurt Angle, and the rest of his has-been crew (Booker-T, Steiner, Nash) the focal point of their entire product. Whilst they put guys like Robert Roode, and James Storm to the backburner, two young guys with great potential to be great singles wrestlers that TNA could push to the moon, but they DON'T. Instead they pair the two up as meaningless tag-team with no explanation for why they decided to team up, other than they are both heels. It's really a shame.
Some guy mentioned that TNA is becoming WCW all over again. And as sad as I am to say it, he is spot on. And to me it's a real shame that so few of you so called TNA fans aren't (or at least don't seem to be) concerned.
And now i'm reading talks of bringing in Ultimate Warrior(48) who hasn't seen the ring in over a decade. And people are actually happy about this. I'm really at a loss for words about that, and that's what prompted me to create this thread. The has-been train doesn't seem to be stopping soon. And it's killing TNA from the inside out.
Kip and BG are "major stars" in TNA? They've wrestled a total of about 15 minutes in the past ten weeks. Dustin Rhodes is midcard at best and he hasn't done anything since Lockdown. Nash and Steiner rarely wrestle except on PPVs where their name will hopefully help sell the show. Sting has just returned from a long layoff. Booker T entered TNA and went right into the midcard to help put over Roode. How many shows has Jarrett been on this year? The only person on your list that TNA has built their show around is Angle and he is hardly a has-been (though this most recent injury might be the end).
Ric Flair who is older than any of these guys probably has had more ring time this year than all of them put together except for Booker and Angle.
I wouldn't agree with having all of those stars, but some of them can actually pull off a good match when it comes to it. Of course, every single match a wrestler has will not have you on the edge of your seat. Sting had a great match awhile back at a pay per view and had the whole crowd chanting, "you still got it" and he is the oldest one on your list. Scott Steiner had a pretty good match at the pay per view with Kaz and Joe. I believe TNA takes in a lot of these wrestlers cause really, where else is there for them to go? Most won't go to WWE, and most come from WWE because of unfair treatment. TNA realizes that fans know of a lot of their stars' unfair treatment, so they tune in to TNA in hopes of them being done better. TNA does make a lot of bad decisions with superstars like Angle, who at times makes TNA look like TNAngle, but I still think they're far above WCW. Bringing in Ultimate Warrior could definitely be taking strides toward WCW though, I agree. He's been out of wrestling long enough to just stay out.
Sting - 49
He's only going to be around for a bit longer and spends most of his time putting over other guys. TNA haven't built their company around him and his leaving won't have any major impact on them.
Kevin Nash - 48
He hardly even wrestles. His main power is in storylines and backstage stuff. His impact is mainly from the mic and age isn't a factor in that. He's supposedly putting Joe over later this year anyway.
Scott Steiner - 45
The guy can still go and is a genius on the mic. Again, he's hardly ever won in TNA and is mostly putting guys over.
Kip James - 44
Why he's mentioned I don't know.
Booker T - 43
Booker T is in TNA to help the young talent. He's already given Roode a big boost and rumour has it he'll be putting over Joe soon. Also, he's still awesome in the ring.
Jeff Jarrett - 41
Hasn't been on TV for an age. Again, why is he on the list?
Kurt Angle - 39
Angle is the only one who you could make a case against. However, TNA need someone to take them mainstream and Angle is the best for that job. He's the biggest name they have so having him on top is the smartest move.
Dustin Rhodes - 39
B.G. James - 38
Why are these two mentioned?
What you don't seem to understand is that the best way to get someone credible is to have them go over name guys. If you asked a casual WWE fan who'd never seen TNA who Joe was they'd shrug. If you then told them he's beaten some of those names listed above, they'd take him seriously and see him as credible. Names like Styles and Daniels won't impress new fans, and with a growing product, that's ultimately what they need. Look at what TNA is doing with the likes of Joe, Styles, Roode and even guys like Lethal and Kaz.
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All the old guys are slowly putting over younger guys. Looking at TNA in late 2009 early 2010 only perhaps only Angle, JJ and Booker T will be around but hopefully not main eventing no more. Only a major fued now and again
I think the points been made already. The big names are there to help TNA get known, become bigger etc and pass on the torch. Face facts put ROH on a two hour TV prime time slot and the likelihood of ratings being higher than TNA's are right now and near non existent. TNA's only chance of creating a potential competitior is to bring in former big names and try and bring fans on over.
Admitted it doesn't work but hey that's not what TNA thinks. But letsface facts also. James Storm vs Samoa Joe, AJ Styles vs Chris Daniels, Creed vs Lethal and no Sting, Christian, Booker, Angle etc would help TNA go backwards not forwards. So for now expect more big names to be major part of the show in the hope they bring ratings up.
I understand what your saying but the reason most of these old big names are in TNA are to help develope the talent and also to help the product get more known around the world. Booker T and Kurt Angle are in TNA to help work with the younger talent and to have good matches with them. Kevin Nash is a guy everyone loves in TNA and he is there to act as a mentor to encourage the younger talent. Scott Steiner is still a really good wrestler at his age and his promos are great. Scott Steiner is one of the guys who helped putn over Samoa Joe a couple of years ago.
Sting is a legend and deserves to be in TNA as he has made his name by not going to the WWE in his career.
BG, Kip, and Dustin are all pretty washed up and aren't really helping TNA at this point from an in-ring standpoint, the rest of those guys still belong for sure. Angle at 39 is still incredible, and Sting at 49 is beyond incredible and this will be his last year anyway.
Booker moves like a guy 10 years younger, and Steiner can still get it done altho he's not quite what he used to be. Nash is obviously hobbled but he doesn't wrestle that much and he's awesome in every other department besides in the ring.
If TNA is going to move forward tho, I agree that the company has to be carried by guys like Joe, Cage, and AJ.
has beens are people who cant contribute anything to the company. Sting, Booker, Kevin Nash, Steiner and Angle are all more than capable of doing this.
Dustin, Kip and BG are all washed up and dont deserve to be in the company.
and TNA hasnt created huge stars but there not a huge company. AJ, Daniels, Joe, MCMG, Roode, Kaz are all prett estabilshed to a certain extent. if you think that people are has beens because there old then have a look at the WWE roster.
WWE:
JBL: 41 years old
Shawn Michaels: 42 Years old
William Regal: 40 years old
Triple H: 38 years old
Batista: 39 years old
Undertaker: 43 years old
Finlay: 49 years old.
so what your saying is that old people arent good wrestlers or cant perform anymore. the list above just proves that. and please name a huge young talent that the WWE has created recently. who can actually wrestle. please dont say Cena.
Every sport has to have veterans, and wrestling is no different. They are there to put people over, train, and give advice. None of those guys are holding titles, and are really helping people in the company.
Joe is the future face of TNA for years to come, and he is holding the belt. That is what matters.
Has-Beens and TNA.
Has-Beens and TNA.
