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Old 04-04-2008, 02:23 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Except for the fact that they replaced that format on the website which only showed 8 slots. They used it for Final Resolution, AAO, DX, and initially Lockdown too. Why would they have changed it up unless there were gonna be more than 8 matches on the card?

And your essentially saying what I said, just replacing the womens match with the other match on the pre-show/dark match. Obviously 1 of the matches is gonna end up in that spot most likely, the only thing is which one.
Like I said, I think your analyzing everything too hard.. They added FanFest info, and all this other stuff to the Lockdown PPV page, so maybe they just felt like changing it because of it being Lockdown, and to get more stuff on the page to advertise.
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Maybe your right, I guess we'll see.
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My early thoughts/predictions:

Xscape Match - Should be great as always with the guys involved. I think there's a chance of Austin "Consequences" Creed being added to it if I remember rightly his debut is the Impact beforehand. Otherwise Kaz could be the final competitor. I think Lethal will retain here unless Dutt turns full-blown heel and screws him somehow as I can't see Shark/Curry getting the belt yet and its too soon for another Devine reign.
Prediction: "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal

Mixed Tag Match - It'll be a great match as long as Banks and Sharmell stay out of the way mostly and let Booker/Roode have a good, intense match. If it is treated this way I can see this being the end of their feud, but if it goes very "mixed" they'll probably have a singles match at Sacrifice to round it off. I expect Booker will put Roode over in the end and then allegedly feud with Tomko so I expect the latter. Therefore...
Prediction: Booker T & Sharmell

BG James vs Kip James - This match has had a great build-up and I can actually see them putting on a decent match. This match could well be their last big stage singles match before they retire so I'd expect them to give it their all. Combining that with the fact that they know each other so well, I think this could be a sleeper match in the undercard.
Prediction: B.G. James

Womens Tag Match - We've seen Kong/Kim. We've seen Kong/ODB. The only unknown element is how well Melissa will take to TNA. To be honest I wish this match had been left off the card. Actually if I'm wishing, then I wish they had held off on Kong/Kim/ODB until now or have two of them go one-on-one in an intense SSoS match. They could have added Melissa to the Queen of the Cage match, which I'm more intrigued by. It's easy to call Saeed taking the fall, but I've called all face wins so far so...
Prediction: Awesome Kong & Raisha Saeed

Queen of the Cage - Hopefully this will be better than the Reverse Battle Royal. It should also be for a title shot. I see the last two being Angelina Love and Roxxi Laveaux, with Roxxi coming out on top.
Prediction: "The Voodoo Queen" Roxxi Laveaux

Lethal Lockdown - This should be brilliant. All the elements for a great contest are there. Matt Morgan's long-anticipated debut should be good and I'm looking forward to seeing him square off with Tomko. Storm is a good addition and this should propel him into a good feud with Sting. I can see AJ taking another huge bump. I'd like a Cage vs Tomko match on the 4/10 Impact to gain the numbers' advantage, but they may save that match-up for Sacrifice. I think Joe will win, so I'm predicting a heel victory in the other main event. TNA seem serious about pushing Tomko and this could be his big payoff. So I think he'll get the pin, but I don't think they'll have him pin Christian.
Prediction: Team Tomko

Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe - The build-up for this match has been superb. I'm glad they're being kept apart until Lockdown. I'm glad Karen Angle is being kept out of the equation to avoid repeating Hard Justice. I'm glad both parties are making this out to be a huge deal. My only concern would be them taking the faux-MMA element too far and leaving behind the aspects that make wrestling great. I still want some good chain wrestling, high-impact spots and great flow, just with some added stiffness. I think one or both of them should juice. It should be booked with no-nonsense, no run-ins. I'm expecting a Coquina Clutch to finish off, and if they want an easy cause for rematch, they could have Kurt pass out rather than tap and then have an I Quit or Ironman rematch.
Prediction: Your winner and new TNA World Heavyweight Champion, Samoa Joe

Overall Thoughts: To echo and elaborate the sentiments of other posts I've read, this card has two fantastic main events and then a somewhat underwhelming undercard. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if both main events racked up high ****+ ratings, with the Xscape being ***1/2-**** too. But then again I could almost as easily see none of the remaining matches hitting ***.

Without meaning this in a sexist way, there's too many womens matches. A PPV shouldn't have more than one (though that one should be given a good amount of time). I think TNA Creative have been over-optimistically buoyed by the slight fluctuations in ratings in thinking they can throw womens matches together and increase buyrates. Booker/Roode didn't need to be mixed tag. I think the best thing they could have done was utilise the uniqueness of the cage in an intense one-on-one/triple threat for the title. Or they could have combined the two women's matches and have the "Queen of the Cage" get a title shot right after. Or include Kong in that match, where she'll actually be at a disadvantage for once. Especially considering the anticipated length of the main events, I can see these matches being short and somewhat unremarkable. Even if they add another match, we're seeing some of the following left out: MCMG, LAX, Kaz, Eric Young, Scott Steiner, Petey Williams, Rock & Rave, Elix Skipper, Black Reign & Rellik. Also, while I'm generally not one to go on about the demise of the X-division, last year we had the Xscape match, Senshi vs Austin Starr and Christopher Daniels vs Jerry Lynn all getting a decent amount of time. This year its just the Xscape match.

My main concern with this card is that I feel it's over-reliant on the main events and I'm not sure the casual fan will pay for the PPV when they can just download the matches they want.

On the plus side, the main events have been booked excellently so far and I really feel either could steal MOTN.

Well that was an epic post lol.
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*The main event of Joe vs Angle is going to be great, no doubt in my mind. BG vs Kip is going to be a short, but good brawl, and it's going to be interesting to see the TNA in-ring debut's of Matt Morgan, Ryesha Saed, and Rocka Khan. I'd rather the Booker T vs Robert Roode match be one-on-one so it could be the definitive blow-off to their feud. I'm guessing that Sharmell and Payton Banks won't be in the ring too much for that match anyway, so what's the point of booking them in it?


*My dream scenario for the Knockouts tag match is that Kong and Saed lose, Kong blames Saed for the loss and attacks her, then hires James Mitchell as her mouthpiece. That way, Saed returns under her Cheerleader Melissa gimmick, because the whole Ryesha Saed thing is just really dumb.
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Im lookin forwrd to th Xcape match.

Curyman and Sharkboy are som of mi favs.
I hope one of then wins.
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i like lethal alot but i would love curryman as X-champ but then they really need to start the dutt/lethal feud asap so dutt turning full heel and becoming X-champ while trying to get val would be awesome too,i'm all for a lethal push but with the x-div.being build up again with even the x cup reurning we needs a new x-champ/x-contenders and x-div.feuds so the xscape match will be awesome and the results could be great
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does the Team Cage v Team Tomko match have anything at stake?
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does the Team Cage v Team Tomko match have anything at stake?
Just pride for now. I don't think it needs anything else.
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Last year the winner of the pinfall got the #1 contendership to the TNA World Title. But yea this year, it's no reward. Just who's got the better squad.
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My early thoughts/predictions:

Xscape Match - Should be great as always with the guys involved. I think there's a chance of Austin "Consequences" Creed being added to it if I remember rightly his debut is the Impact beforehand. Otherwise Kaz could be the final competitor. I think Lethal will retain here unless Dutt turns full-blown heel and screws him somehow as I can't see Shark/Curry getting the belt yet and its too soon for another Devine reign.
Prediction: "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal

Mixed Tag Match - It'll be a great match as long as Banks and Sharmell stay out of the way mostly and let Booker/Roode have a good, intense match. If it is treated this way I can see this being the end of their feud, but if it goes very "mixed" they'll probably have a singles match at Sacrifice to round it off. I expect Booker will put Roode over in the end and then allegedly feud with Tomko so I expect the latter. Therefore...
Prediction: Booker T & Sharmell

BG James vs Kip James - This match has had a great build-up and I can actually see them putting on a decent match. This match could well be their last big stage singles match before they retire so I'd expect them to give it their all. Combining that with the fact that they know each other so well, I think this could be a sleeper match in the undercard.
Prediction: B.G. James

Womens Tag Match - We've seen Kong/Kim. We've seen Kong/ODB. The only unknown element is how well Melissa will take to TNA. To be honest I wish this match had been left off the card. Actually if I'm wishing, then I wish they had held off on Kong/Kim/ODB until now or have two of them go one-on-one in an intense SSoS match. They could have added Melissa to the Queen of the Cage match, which I'm more intrigued by. It's easy to call Saeed taking the fall, but I've called all face wins so far so...
Prediction: Awesome Kong & Raisha Saeed

Queen of the Cage - Hopefully this will be better than the Reverse Battle Royal. It should also be for a title shot. I see the last two being Angelina Love and Roxxi Laveaux, with Roxxi coming out on top.
Prediction: "The Voodoo Queen" Roxxi Laveaux

Lethal Lockdown - This should be brilliant. All the elements for a great contest are there. Matt Morgan's long-anticipated debut should be good and I'm looking forward to seeing him square off with Tomko. Storm is a good addition and this should propel him into a good feud with Sting. I can see AJ taking another huge bump. I'd like a Cage vs Tomko match on the 4/10 Impact to gain the numbers' advantage, but they may save that match-up for Sacrifice. I think Joe will win, so I'm predicting a heel victory in the other main event. TNA seem serious about pushing Tomko and this could be his big payoff. So I think he'll get the pin, but I don't think they'll have him pin Christian.
Prediction: Team Tomko

Kurt Angle vs Samoa Joe - The build-up for this match has been superb. I'm glad they're being kept apart until Lockdown. I'm glad Karen Angle is being kept out of the equation to avoid repeating Hard Justice. I'm glad both parties are making this out to be a huge deal. My only concern would be them taking the faux-MMA element too far and leaving behind the aspects that make wrestling great. I still want some good chain wrestling, high-impact spots and great flow, just with some added stiffness. I think one or both of them should juice. It should be booked with no-nonsense, no run-ins. I'm expecting a Coquina Clutch to finish off, and if they want an easy cause for rematch, they could have Kurt pass out rather than tap and then have an I Quit or Ironman rematch.
Prediction: Your winner and new TNA World Heavyweight Champion, Samoa Joe

Overall Thoughts: To echo and elaborate the sentiments of other posts I've read, this card has two fantastic main events and then a somewhat underwhelming undercard. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if both main events racked up high ****+ ratings, with the Xscape being ***1/2-**** too. But then again I could almost as easily see none of the remaining matches hitting ***.

Without meaning this in a sexist way, there's too many womens matches. A PPV shouldn't have more than one (though that one should be given a good amount of time). I think TNA Creative have been over-optimistically buoyed by the slight fluctuations in ratings in thinking they can throw womens matches together and increase buyrates. Booker/Roode didn't need to be mixed tag. I think the best thing they could have done was utilise the uniqueness of the cage in an intense one-on-one/triple threat for the title. Or they could have combined the two women's matches and have the "Queen of the Cage" get a title shot right after. Or include Kong in that match, where she'll actually be at a disadvantage for once. Especially considering the anticipated length of the main events, I can see these matches being short and somewhat unremarkable. Even if they add another match, we're seeing some of the following left out: MCMG, LAX, Kaz, Eric Young, Scott Steiner, Petey Williams, Rock & Rave, Elix Skipper, Black Reign & Rellik. Also, while I'm generally not one to go on about the demise of the X-division, last year we had the Xscape match, Senshi vs Austin Starr and Christopher Daniels vs Jerry Lynn all getting a decent amount of time. This year its just the Xscape match.

My main concern with this card is that I feel it's over-reliant on the main events and I'm not sure the casual fan will pay for the PPV when they can just download the matches they want.

On the plus side, the main events have been booked excellently so far and I really feel either could steal MOTN.

Well that was an epic post lol.
Wow, what a post. Great insights man.
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