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Old 02-11-2008, 02:17 PM   #401 (permalink)
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Ok, so why didn´t Shark Boy attack Angle. That sh*t made no freakin sense at all, especially since Tomko is supposed to be a babyface. It´s not even like Christian screwed Tomko out of anything. Christian actually has more reasons to be upset with Tomko than the other way around. First Tomko/Styles screwed Cage out of the title to join the Angle alliance, now Tomko screwed Christian out of the title again. As far as I know Christian never called Tomko´s wife a whore either like Angle.

So how does it make any sense that Tomko would help Angle. If he was on his own, he would have stayed in the back, and maybe challenged the winner on Impact.
When CC was champ he offered Tomko and AJ title shoots for helping him out which never came.

Also Tomko was CC lackey.
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When CC was champ he offered Tomko and AJ title shoots for helping him out which never came.

Also Tomko was CC lackey.
Or Christian brought him into TNA and gave him a job, when he was a nobody in America. Angle called his wife a whore.
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Angle/Christian - ****1/4
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Just finished watching AAE, pretty good ppv, the first half was kinda poor but the second half really made up for it.


Tag title match
- Crap, just glad it was short. Whose idea was it to bring in Bullet bob.... Really glad Aj/tomko kept the belts though at least for now.

Banks/Brooks - Not a bad showing, it was a nice little brawl.

Steiner/Williams - Really enjoyed this match, good back and forth action throughout. That chick at the end was definitely a surprise. She'll make a nice addition to the knockout division.

EY/Storm - This was a real nice surprise, I figured this would be somewhat of a comedy match and it turned out to be alot better than I anticipated. Loved that spot with Jackie and the DVD. Awesome to see Rhino back what a freaking GORE!!!

ODB/Kong - ODb did alright in there with the powerhouse Kong, Not even close to the quality of Kong/Kim but not a bad match.

BWM2 - Some sick spots here and there but mostly I was disappointed, Mesias barely had a mark on him while poor Abyss is bleeding like a stuck pig like usual. Not terrible or nothing but I expected more.


Booker/Roode - Another slightly disappointing showing, descent match but I think they could've done better. The ending kinda sucked but I'm glad this feud will progress to the next ppv.


Streetfight - Fucking loved this match every second of it. Lethal was unbelievable in it. The only real problem I had was that Mcmg were done for waaaaay to long and didn't really factor into this match at all. Lethal definitely stole the show. I loved the ending with So cal as well.

Angle/Cage - After the last ppv I didn't think they could pull off as good a match as that but they proved me wrong. Great wrestling action all the way through. These 2 work very well together. Yeah it was a little overbooked like most Tna main events but it didn't bother me too much. Tomko surprised the hell outta me. I think it was more of a F you to both rather than him aligning himself with Angle.
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i just watched TNA today, which was just them talking about the aftermath of the main event. west, tenay, and jb all made it sound like tomko screwed christian because he was mad that christian helped him beat angle. yeah...makes tons of sense...
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I'm watching the PPV now and did anyone notice that the PPV theme song was a generic/rip-off of the Tool song "Rosetta Stoned"?!
Tomko's solo entrance is another Tool riff also...from Vicarious I believe. It's pretty embarassing that they just go and copy the riffs and hack the song a bit and think it's acceptable, it's comes off really cheap and nasty....like the rest of their production work.

As for the PPV, the interference in so many matches was disappointing......it feels like nothing was resolved at all, just a cheap way to continue feuds. Christian was screwed even worse this time, does this mean he gets another shot!? Logic says he is entitled to one..guess that means he won't!
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Tomko's solo entrance is another Tool riff also...from Vicarious I believe. It's pretty embarassing that they just go and copy the riffs and hack the song a bit and think it's acceptable, it's comes off really cheap and nasty....like the rest of their production work.

As for the PPV, the interference in so many matches was disappointing......it feels like nothing was resolved at all, just a cheap way to continue feuds. Christian was screwed even worse this time, does this mean he gets another shot!? Logic says he is entitled to one..guess that means he won't!
There was only interference in 2 out of 9 matches, pretty good if u ask me.

Also, the 2 matches that did have interference played out well to me. The Main Event was wild and unpredictable and the Rhino return was much needed.
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Just watched it. Awesome PPV.

Angle/Cage was easily ****1/2. Will go down as one of the great matches of the year.

I marked out for Rhino.

Not happy with the Tomko turn, but I guess it's expected with TNA.

Solid, solid PPV. Bravo TNA.
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There was only interference in 2 out of 9 matches, pretty good if u ask me.

Also, the 2 matches that did have interference played out well to me. The Main Event was wild and unpredictable and the Rhino return was much needed.
2 out of 9?

Storm v Young - Rhino, acceptable for a match I didn't even know was happening.
Roode v Booker - Banks.
Abyss v Mesias - Father Mitchell, made sense though.
Kong v ODB - Saeed. (this one was embarrassing, Kong is a monster, doesn't need this stupid shit at all)
Steiner v Williams - Some chick of Steiner's....like wtf?
Street Fight - Not on purpose, but So Cal Val was tossed around and was a distraction for Jay, didn't deter from the match like the others though.
Angle v Cage - interference from Karen, Joe, AJ and Tomko.

TNA needs to get some damn clean pins on their PPV's, NO ONE gets over with bizarrz booking like this. I mean who even has steam in TNA at the moment? Tomko? It feels like his may have just died out as well. It's just frustrating.
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But your not realizing something, before the Angle/Cage match Cage said "Of course I know something that everyone else doesn't."

That is the whole reasoning behind this, it leads me to believe Cage tried to pay Tomko off and that's something u just don't do.
I'm not sure I understand. Christian tries to get Tomko to interfere, so instead of just saying "no" Tomko decides to go out there and screw him over? If Tomko was really his own man he would have just said "I'm not getting involved" like he did two months ago and been done with it.

Also, none of this was mentioned. We shouldn't have to fill in this big of a hole.

The fact that we're sitting here talking about this shows how bad it is. It's one thing for someone to be a complexity among a lot of simple characters. That's actually a really good thing. But what made Tomko special wasn't that he was "unpredictable". The whole company is filled with those type of guys. But he was very simple. Not hard to figure out. Everytime Tomko came up in a thread, instead of hearing the usual "this makes no sense" response, it was "yeah Tomko's special" or "They've been doing Tomko right." Now we're starting to hear a whole lot of "this makes no sense" comments again. Whether they find a way to make sense out of all this or not doesn't matter. They've just ruined the most easy thing they had going.
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