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Another match that I feel has been heavily underrated this year was Petey vs. Steiner from Against All Odds. That was a very good undercard match.
Indeed. Although they buried Petey a bit in the beginning, near the end he got some nice offense. Afterall it was a nice way to set up the Little Petey Pump storyline. **3/4

Another incredible match that I didn't see on the other lists is the Des X opener: LAX vs RnR Infection vs MCMG. What an amazing match that was.. Great action, full of energy and with lots of spots. ***3/4 - ****. Need to rewatch it tho.
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Yeah that was a fun 3 way tag for sure. Destination X had a few really good ones. Lethal vs. Petey was a very good X Title match.
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Top 10 2008
1. Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle V (TNA Lockdown)
2. AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle (TNA Slammiversary)
3. Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle II (TNA Final Resolution)
4. Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle III (TNA Against All Odds)
5. Team Cage vs. Team Tomko (TNA Lockdown)
6. Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle IV (TNA Impact)
7. Frankie Kazarian vs. Petey Williams (TNA Slammiversary)
8. Yuji Nagata vs. Kurt Angle (TNA Impact)
9. Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong II (TNA Final Resolution)
10. Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle VI (TNA Impact)

Honorable 5
1. Christian Cage vs. AJ Styles vs. Samoa Joe (TNA Impact)
2. The Motor City Machine Guns vs. Speed Muscle (TNA Impact)
3. Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim vs. ODB (TNA Destination-X)
4. Frankie Kazarian vs. Chris Sabin vs. Curry Man vs. Johnny Devine vs. Jimmy Rave (TNA Impact)
5. Team 3D and Johnny Devine vs. Jay Lethal and The Motor City Machine Guns (TNA Against All Odds)
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My Top 10 of 2008 so far (no particular order)

Team Cage vs. Team Tomko: Lethal Lockdown (LD)
Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle: World Title (FR)
Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle: World Title (AGA)
AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle (Slam)
Kaz vs. Petey Williams: X Title (Slam)
Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong: No DQ (FR)
Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe: World Title (LD)
Christian Cage vs. Tomko: KOTM Qualifier (Impact)
Samoa Joe vs. Kaz: World Title (Impact)
Samoa Joe vs. Robert Roode vs. Christian Cage vs. Booker T vs. Rhino: King of the Mountain (Slam)

Other matches I really enjoyed:

PPV:
LAX vs. RNR (FR)
Jay Lethal/MMCG vs. Team 3D: Ultimate X (FR)
Scott Steiner vs. Petey Williams: (AGA)
Abyss vs. Judas Messias: Barbed Wire Massacre (AGA)
LAX vs. MCMG vs. RNR (DX)
Jay Lethal vs. Petey Williams: X Title (DX)
Jay Lethal vs. Sonjay Dutt vs. Curry Man vs. Shark Boy vs. Johnny Devine vs. Consequences Creed: Xscape Match (LD)
LAX vs. Team 3D: Deuces Wild Tournament Finals (Sac)
X Division Terrordome Match (Sac)
Samoa Joe vs. Kaz vs. Scott Steiner: World Title(Sac)

Impact:
Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong III: Knockout's Title
Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong IV: Knockout's Title
Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle: Six Sides of Steel
Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle VI
Kaz vs. Kurt Angle II
Sting, Christian Cage, Rhino, Kevin Nash vs. AJ Styles, Tomko, Team 3D
Kaz vs. Curry Man vs. Johnny Devine vs. Jimmy Rave vs. Chris Sabin: X Division KOTM
Motor City Machine Guns vs. Speed Muscle
Motor City Machine Guns vs. Christian Cage & Rhino: Decues Wild Qualifying Match
LAX vs. James Storm & Robert Roode: Tag Titles

If you want to throw the Global Impact from Japan in there, obviously Angle vs. Nagata was a great match. I liked all the matches, but I thought The Steiner Brothers vs. Tomko/Bernard & Daniels vs. Ionue were both very good for different reasons.
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I don't even think I have so many favorite matches this year. So I would cut my list down to top five matches as well.

Top Five TNA 2008 Matches
1). Kurt Angle vs. Christian Cage, Against All Odds.
2). Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle, Lockdown.
3). Lethal Lockdown, Lockdown.
4). Kurt Angle vs. Christian Cage, Final Resolution.
5). AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle, Slammiversary.

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Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong (No DQ), Final Resolution.
Christian Cage vs. Kurt Angle (Six Sides Of Steel), Impact.

Last two here are still pretty good matches for the most part. But they would fit more in my top ten matches, that is if I can get a complete list by the end of the year.
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I loved the Angle vs. Christian matches this year. The only thing that sucks is he got screwed in both so I thought that he deserved one more shot but w/e still great matches.

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I just rewatched Joe vs. Angle from Lockdown, and I gotta admit, I think I enjoyed it more the second time around. Upon first viewing, I wasn't quite sure how to react to the MMA style of the bout, but when watching it again, the match was really worked very well.

Now when ranking the entire Angle/Joe series:

1) Turning Point 2006 - This one is still my favorite. It was just an amazing match that truly showcased the very best of both men. The best thing about it is that it wasn't a cookie cutter version of the Genesis match and they tried to make it different while still referencing things from that match and previous encounters. I also loved it because Joe got the clean win over Angle, which to me was a big deal.

2) Lockdown 2008 - I think I ranked it as 3rd in the series originally but there were somethings I noticed while watching it the second time around that made me like the match more. For one thing, the crowd seemed like they were going to crap on it at first, but Joe & Angle were able to get the crowd interested in what they were doing and every little move seemed to matter. And some of the reversals for the submissions were perfectly done.

3) Genesis 2006 - Normally the first is the best, but apparently Angle's blew up and the match had to be cut short, leaving us with a very good and intense match, but plenty of room for improvement as well. The atmosphere of this match was amazing though, and the actual ring work was great too. I remember watching this match the first time around and thinking that these two were trying to kill each other. Some people were way too hard on it, but I think that's because expectations were so high, but the final product was about on par with other matches on the card like AJ/Christian & Sting/Abyss, but to be honest, I was more interested in those matches when the PPV rolled around anyway, so to me Angle/Joe was still great.

4) Final Resolution 2007: 30 Minute Iron Man Match - This was one of those matches that everybody seemed to have up on their "Match of the Year Contenders" list but to be honest I didn't see what the big deal was. It was a really good match up, but I didn't think it was anything too special. I don't know what it was, but something about this match just didn't click with me like it did with alot of other people. But don't get me wrong, this match is anything but bad. It filled out a pretty good show quite nicely.

5) Impact after Lockdown 2008 - Now this one I probably need to see again. When a match happens on free TV, its very easy to forget it the next week. For example, I almost put down Kaz vs. Joe from last week's Impact as my favorite TV match of the year, but for a split second I completely forgot about the awesome Tomko/Christian KOTM qualifier which I did say was my favorite TV match of the year. So the work in this match was really good as usual, but its easy to forget just because free TV matches usually are (now one could argue that TNA has some many good matches on Impact that its just hard to keep track of them all which is ultimately a good thing)

6) Hard Justice 2007: Winner Takes All - Once again, I don't think these two are able to have a bad match with each other if they tried, and I loved the whole concept of every belt in TNA being on the line in one singles match. It had never been done before and it just seemed cool. The action and the work in the match itself was great, but the major problem was that the ending was extremely predictable. Had Karen Angle not been at ringside, I think the ending would have come off better, but I think everybody saw that turn coming a mile away (except for poor ol' Joe of course)
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Here's ly Angle vs Joe list, pretty much the same

1) Turning Point ****1/2 - ****3/4
2) Genesis ****1/2
3) Lockdown ****1/4 - ****1/2
4) Final Resolution ****
5) Impact ***3/4 - ****
6) Hard Justice ***1/2
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Angle's 2008:
v. Cage (AAO) - ****1/2
v. Cage (FR) - ****1/4
v. Joe (LD) - ****
v. AJ (Slammi) - ****1/4

Pretty impressive year. If it weren't for the neck I could see him getting wrestler of the year quite easily.
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I just checked out "NWA:TNA Best of NWA Title Matches" which is a great DVD collection for anybody who is looking for good material from the weekly PPV era.

One thing I noticed while watching this is just how far TNA has come since then in terms of production. Watch the recent TNA DVD releases and then watch this one and you'll see the difference. The DVD comes on with a main menue featuring the TNA logo and a simple list of the matches on the disc with no Play all feature.

The matches on this set come from the first 13-14 months or so in TNA's history and all the matches are either NWA World Title Matches or NWA Tag Team Title Matches. This is a two disc set featuring 11 matches and a special series of interviews with Sting from when he was with TNA in 2003.

Also, during the matches, they post comments from some of the competitors like Jarrett, AJ, & AMW. This is kind of annoying since it intterupts the match, but none of the comments go too long which is good. It would have been better if they put them in before or after the matches though.

Before each match, Tenay & West give us a quick intro to each bout and explain the background of the bout, which is actually a nice transition from match to match.

Disc 1:

The first disc is all World Title matches and we begin with the original Gauntlet for the Gold from the very first TNA PPV. The wrestlers featured in this match are Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall, Rick Steiner, Buff Bagwell, Ken Shamrock, Malice, BG James, Ron Killings (going by K-Krush), Del Rios, The Vampire Warrior (Gangrel), Bruce of the Rainbow Express, Brian Christopher, Chris Harris, Justice, Apolo, Slash, Konnan, Devon Storm, Steve Corino, Lash Leroux, & Norman Smiley. But the match is so heavily clipped on the DVD, some of them you don't see. It would have been nice to include the full Gauntlet, but they got a lot of the cool stuff on there like Toby Keith suplexing Jeff Jarrett, and the nice little match between Shamrock & Malice to close. And of course if you want to see an Unmasked Abyss, pay close attention to the wrestler Justice. It was cool to see some of this footage, but it would have been nice to get the full gauntlet, but none of the other matches on the set are clipped, so this is the last time we get this problem. Ken Shamrock came away victorious in this match as the very first World Champion in TNA history.

- The first real match on the DVD is Ron Killings vs. Jeff Jarrett. Now normally I'm hard on Ron Killings, but this is probably the best match I've ever seen him in. There was some nice wrestling and some really good brawling as well. Thanks to some help from Vince Russo (dressed as Mr. Wrestling III), Jeff Jarrett was able to come away with his first NWA World Title.

- AJ Styles vs. Jeff Jarrett was next and IMO, this is the match that made AJ Styles a legit contender in the heavyweight ranks. The clash of styles in this match added great flavor to the bout and made it very exciting. This was definately the best World Title match TNA had held up to this point in the promotion. Jarrett picked up the win, but AJ would get his day in the sun later on.

- This next match was definately the biggest match TNA held in its first year. Jeff Jarrett vs. Raven for the World Title was their first blockbuster main event. The match is featured on a few other DVD releases (History of TNA: Year One, Best of Raven) but that only shows just how important this match was in the early days of TNA. The match itself is very good and filled with drama and cool moments. It's probably my favorite match on the set. Jarrett walked away victorious despite overwhelming odds.

- AJ vs. Jeff & Raven vs. Jeff were the two best title matches TNA had, so why not just combine all three guys into one match? That's what they did as Jarrett defended his title against AJ Styles & Raven in a Triple Threat Match for the gold. This match is also featured on "Best of AJ Styles Vol 1" and with good reason. It was AJ's first World Title win in TNA (oddly enough, he beat Jarrett for all three of his World Title wins) The match itself isn't quite on the level of the previous two, but still really good with some really cool reversals and action from all three guys. AJ Styles of course got the win after some unexpected help from Vince Russo.

Disc 2:

- The only World Title match on Disc 2 is Match 3 in the AJ Styles/D'Lo Brown Best of 3 Series where the title was decided in a Ladder Match. This match is also found on "Best of AJ Styles Vol 1" and is a really fun ladder match. It features one of the most amazing spots I have ever seen in a Ladder match where D'Lo climbed to the top of the Ladder and did a Frog Splash to the outside onto AJ through a table. That was insane. The ending was a little weird as both men climbed up and grabbed the belt and took it down. The belt stayed with AJ on the explaination that on a Draw the Champion retains, but that kind of made the double finish pointless, but oh well.

Now we move into the tag title matches in this collection:

- The first major tag team feud in TNA's history was AMW vs. The New Church, and it is only fitting that the final match in the feud be included on the DVD. This one has also found its way onto a few DVDs (History of TNA: Year 1, Best of AMW), which is understandable because the match was well built and is really good. All the matches these two teams had were great brawls and this was no exception. AMW finally got their big win over The New Church and regained their NWA Tag Titles.

- The second big tag team feud in TNA's first year was between AMW & XXX, and the first meeting between the two factions is included in this set. Normally it would be AMW going up against Daniels & Skipper, but this first match involved the Low Ki/Skipper pairing. This was a very good tag team match as one would expect and there were a lot of great counters as well. Triple X were able to cheat their way to victory, the first of 4 they would get over AMW.

- The next tag match is pure X Division action as Daniels & Skipper defend the gold against Jerry Lynn & Amazing Red. First of all, I suggest watching any Amazing Red match from the first year because Don West just LOVED the guy. He put him over so big it was insane. If you love high flying X Division then you'll love this match. All four guys pulled out some amazing move in this one. It was great, and its a forgotten gem from TNA's past. I'd say its one of the best non gimmicked tag matches in TNA history. Seriously, I would rank it up there AMW vs. Team Canada from FR & some of the AJ/Daniels vs. AMW matches. Surprisingly, Lynn & Red take the titles here.

- At some point Triple X regained the belts and the next match is a title defense against AJ Styles & D'Lo Brown. I'll say this. AJ & D'Lo is one of the best tag teams TNA put together that never won the tag titles. The XXX pairing for this match was Skipper & Daniels. This was another very good action packed match up. The ending was botched, which hurt it a bit, but watching this match makes me wish that AJ & D'Lo had won the straps because they worked very well together. Triple X once again retained the tag titles.

- And the final match on the set is the first Cage Match in TNA history as AMW sought to take the titles from XXX (Daniels & Skipper) This was a very good match with tons of great action, violence, and drama. There were a few minor botches here and there, but all of them were made up for (for example, the botched Death Sentence was made for that awesome Death Sentence off the top of the cage!) This was definatley one of TNA's earliest classics and I'm sure if they ever made a History of TNA: Year 2 this match would be on there (it wook place the week after the 1st anniversary show)

- And finally we have the interview segments with Sting which to be honest are nothing overly special, and the segments are poorly edited for the DVD. For some reason we catch the end of the previous segment before going into the Sting segment (we get footage of Elix Skipper winning a match, and then head into Sting) Sting gives some interesting answers though so its not a total waste.

Match Rankings
1) Raven vs. Jarrett
2) AMW vs. XXX: Steel Cage
3) AJ vs. Jarrett
4) Red/Lynn vs. XXX
5) AMW vs. XXX
6) AJ vs. Raven vs. Jarrett
7) AMW vs. New Church
8) AJ vs. D'Lo: Ladder Match
9) AJ/D'Lo vs. XXX
10) Killings vs. Jarrett
11) Gauntlet for the Gold

So yeah this is a nice collection of some of TNA's best work from the first year, and there are some very rare matches on here that are definately worth picking up. Even if you already have some of this matches from the Best of AJ, Best of AMW, or Year One DVDs, some very good matches like the Lynn/Red vs. XXX, AMW vs. XXX, AJ vs. Jarrett matches can't be found anywhere else, so this is definately worth checking out if you can get your hands on it.
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