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No Surrender 2006 is remembered for The Ultimate X Match and the announcement of Kurt Angle coming to TNA, so people kind of let it slide.

But the Jackass stuff in the X Division Matches royally pissed me off at the time.

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Thanks for the mini-review. For the past couple of weeks I've been watching some old TNA matches that I can find on YouTube, mostly from around 2006, and mainly for nostalgia purposes (my name is fitting, isn't it?). And through doing that, it reminded me how GOOD TNA was in 2006. So many talents I liked such as: Christian, Jarrett, Styles, Daniels, Samoa Joe, AMW, LAX, Team 3D, Sting, competing in quality matches PPV after PPV. Had such a positive effect on me watching these classics matches again, that I wanted to own a few PPV's from around the time TNA was at it's absolute BEST. And considering that I haven't owned any TNA PPV's before, I said why not, and bought three PPV's (might buy some more soon). I arguably enjoyed TNA more than WWE at the time, and I find it odd that I don't own a single TNA PPV - but yet I own probably 30-40 WWE PPV's. I've watched again, or remember, most of the matches on the DVD's I'm getting, but for those I haven't, or can't remember, I appreciate the little review on them. I'll probably end up watching the whole shows anyway, instead of specific matches, which is something I rarely do with PPV's I've bought on DVD, but I want to relive the experience of how good TNA was then .
No problem.

I was the same way during 2006. While CM Punk was on ECW, I firmly preferred TNA over WWE at that time. So much excitement week in and week out while watching Impact. Engrossing characters/angles, good matches, the works. All done in the format of a 45 minute show too. Their hour shows are WAY better than their 2 hour programs. Which I don't understand, but whatever. If you get the TNA bug then start building up on that collection. I'm at around nearly 30 iirc. So I'm building up myself. Helps when my brother owns a TON himself. Combines our collection to owning nearly all from 2004 - 2009. The bulk is generally worth your time too. Although, listen to the recent posts of skipping out on No Surrender 2006 unless you can find it for a decent price online. Like wait for a sale on TNAwrestling.com to snag it for 5 bucks if you really want it. Anything else isn't worth the price.

Btw, don't pass on any of the Bound For Glory events. Doesn't matter how the collective years have gone, those events have always delivered. Hasn't been a "bad" one yet.

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No Surrender 06 totally sucked besides the Ultimate X. Underrated in all-time bad TNA PPVs. If not for the UX redeeming it slightly, it really would be one of their worst.
EY/A-1. Whatever
Lethal/Petey sucked.
Abyss/Raven/Runt was ok.
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Low Ki/Sabin was going along ok until the finish happened which sucked. Better off just watching the BFG rematch.
Cage/Rhino was decent.
UX was great.
Joe/Jarrett was hindered by the gimmick.

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100% agree. It's one of their worst. I'm firmly staying with Against All Odds 2010 as their #1 worst, but No Surrender would easily be in Top 10 if not top 5. Hell it might #3 on the list with Victory Road 2004 at number two. I'd have to give the ranking a bit more consideration to lock things up of course.

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Sometimes, I wonder what would have happened if Christian had stayed with TNA and not returned to WWE. Would he have got lost in the shuffle, specially when the Main Event Mafia was going on?

Man, loved his run in TNA and would love TNA to produce another Christian DVD giving us his 'Best Of' or something.
Lost in the shuffle. He already was by 2008. Not surprising he bolted when he did. Plus, word is he hated his time there too so that's even more of a reason why things happen the way they did.

EDIT ~ There is no defending No Surrender 2006. It sucks. I wouldn't claim Angle's debut for the company as a positive either. Company went straight down following that goofball joining the mix.

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EDIT ~ There is no defending No Surrender 2006. It sucks. I wouldn't claim Angle's debut for the company as a positive either. Company went straight down following that goofball joining the mix.
I know some people on this forum have strong hate for Angle and all. But straight down? You must hate Genesis 2006.

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It's not that good of a show, yeah. But the irony there is Angle vs Joe I is like Angle's best match in his TNA career. Nothing has come close to capturing the magic that was there that night.

But seriously, the company went from being at it's hottest point to nearly cooling off in mere weeks. Angle comes in and makes Abyss submit & ends Joe's streak within his first two matches. Then he would be shoved down our throats for 2007. I could have done without that, quite frankly.

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I kind of enjoyed Total Nonstop ANGLE but I get your point. I honesty still feel the company went and rushed the whole Angle vs. Joe feud just because they had a star in Angle. Though I was fine with where they went with it all until after the Turning Point match. Sad thing is that TNA looked better back then compared to the shit that happens in 2010 when Hogan joins.

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2010 was a pretty off year. Only I give it some forgivable passes in a FEW areas thanks to it being so bad, it had a bit of entertainment. But parts of it I just can't stand. My least favorite year from TNA to this day is still 2008. That year did absolutely nothing for me.

2004, 2007, 2008, 2010, & 2011. No doubt the 5 weakest years in TNA's history. The way 2013 is going it will knock 2004 right off the page. (2004 was so much as bad as it was just pretty boring. Weekly PPVs felt like the same matches constantly since they were weeding it out for Impact down the line)

Wait, 2009 needs to be put up there. Another boring year, but I'd say it had it's fair share of bad more than 2004. Lets credit Sharmell vs Jenna with that. So 2004 is the middle ground year. Nothing more and nothing less. 2002's 6 months, 2003, 2005, 2006, & 2012 get the nods as the higher points in the history of the company. Without a doubt. 2003 is so underrated around these parts. Great year, imo.

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No problem.

I was the same way during 2006. While CM Punk was on ECW, I firmly preferred TNA over WWE at that time. So much excitement week in and week out while watching Impact. Engrossing characters/angles, good matches, the works. All done in the format of a 45 minute show too. Their hour shows are WAY better than their 2 hour programs. Which I don't understand, but whatever. If you get the TNA bug then start building up on that collection. I'm at around nearly 30 iirc. So I'm building up myself. Helps when my brother owns a TON himself. Combines our collection to owning nearly all from 2004 - 2009. The bulk is generally worth your time too. Although, listen to the recent posts of skipping out on No Surrender 2006 unless you can find it for a decent price online. Like wait for a sale on TNAwrestling.com to snag it for 5 bucks if you really want it. Anything else isn't worth the price.

Btw, don't pass on any of the Bound For Glory events. Doesn't matter how the collective years have gone, those events have always delivered. Hasn't been a "bad" one yet.
For me, 2006 WWE was all about the Cena/Edge feud, DX reunion, RVD push, ECW return, but despite all of that, I think I preferred TNA before at the time. Didn't care for Punk at the time, didn't start to become a fan him until 2009 when he had that feud with Jeff Hardy.

I remember when TNA's shows would only be an hour, and I also remember when they had a six-sided ring, what happened to that? The six-sided ring was unique to TNA and I liked it.

I've been reading the recent posts about No Surrender. I'll take the advice on it. I do remember enjoying Joe/Jarrett from that PPV though, but I haven't watched it since I saw it live, and I'll probably check it out on YouTube along with a few other matches from that card to see how they hold up 6 years later. I've noticed that TNA have a good amount of full length matches YouTube, as opposed to WWE, which is good, and PPV's that I'm not sure on buying I can just watch the matches on there and decide.

One thing I always liked about TNA PPV's is we always got them free here in the UK.

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EDIT ~ There is no defending No Surrender 2006. It sucks. I wouldn't claim Angle's debut for the company as a positive either. Company went straight down following that goofball joining the mix.
I was a fan of Angle in the WWE, but I didn't care for him as much when he joined TNA for some reason. And now I often hear about how Angles matches have gotten worse over the years, and he's regressed in the ring, in the years I haven't watched TNA (stopped watching regularly in 2009).

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For me, 2006 WWE was all about the Cena/Edge feud, DX reunion, RVD push, ECW return, but despite all of that, I think I preferred TNA before at the time. Didn't care for Punk at the time, didn't start to become a fan him until 2009 when he had that feud with Jeff Hardy.

I remember when TNA's shows would only be an hour, and I also remember when they had a six-sided ring, what happened to that? The six-sided ring was unique to TNA and I liked it.

I've been reading the recent posts about No Surrender. I'll take the advice on it. I do remember enjoying Joe/Jarrett from that PPV though, but I haven't watched it since I saw it live, and I'll probably check it out on YouTube along with a few other matches from that card to see how they hold up 6 years later. I've noticed that TNA have quite a lot of full length matches on YouTube, as opposed to WWE, which is good, and PPV's that I'm not sure on buying I can just watch the matches on there and decide.

One thing I always liked about TNA PPV's is we always got them free here in the UK.



I was a fan of Angle in the WWE, but I didn't care for him as much when he joined TNA for some reason. And now I often hear about how Angles matches have gotten worse over the years, and he's regressed in the ring, in the years I haven't watched TNA (stopped watching regularly in 2009).
2006 as a whole was a good year for both companies. No doubt. I'm going by how I felt at the time and I truly was rolling with TNA more than I was WWE. I still purchased WWE 4 major PPVs that year so I was loyal to both, haha. I was a fan of Punk years prior to the WWE debut so I was partial then too.

Yeah, it's certainly a big advantage. Also torrents are. I don't know why I flagged the disclaimer so much about you purchasing the show when there CLEARLY are other ways of viewing. I feel dumb now. Certainly check out the Ultimate X tag match as I do believe it is on youtube. Any of the rest you can press your luck on. Much the same for other events. I know the entire Bound For Glory 2011 show is on youtube. That can be a fun watch for you. Only take a quick backstory to know what was going on and enjoy. 2010's is on there too in parts. That's a really fun event, imo.

Free? Lucky guy. Seems like you chaps in England get everything wrestling related.

Bingo. He doesn't have that filter that contained him in WWE. So he gets pretty bad. Until you watch him in a tag team match unleash a super swell HOT TAG like he did in his matches teaming with AJ Styles vs Daniels & Kazarian. He's pretty good when working in those short burst. Just not for an entire match. He can get pretty awful. vs Jeff Hardy @ No Surrender 2010 & vs Jeff Jarrett @ Lockdown 2011 are among his two worst matches ever.

As for the six sided ring - Hogan canned that the moment he officially debuted on screen in the start of 2010. He made the ring go back to 4 sides. He incorporated a lot of different (to TNA at least) elements. Made it feel like WCW again. Not even an exaggeration either. It really was. Didn't come off too well with a lot of TNA fans. Made the year pretty infamous on that front. Not to mention a crap ECW stable angle vs the new Four Horseman crew. It's...interesting to use a more civil term. The Six-Sided ring made a reappearance at the Destination X 2011 event. It's going to appear once again for one of the taped TNA events for the original crew of the promotion. So, you'll get your fix of it for 2013 too.

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Free? Lucky guy. Seems like you chaps in England get everything wrestling related.
We used to get all TNA PPV's free, I don't think that's the case anymore. The only TNA PPV I've watched in full since I stopped watching regularly in 2009 was that PPV that Aries won the World Title (can't remember the name of the PPV) and I had to stream that show, so I'm not sure we get them free anymore. And if you're curious, the only reason I watched that show was because a friend talked me into it and I wanted to see Christian's appearance on the PPV. It was a average to good show, but it wasn't great to the point that I wanted to watch on a regular basis again.

And if you have Sky Sports here in the UK, you get 4 WWE PPV's free a year, we get Over The Limit, Money In The Bank, Hell In a Cell and Elimination Chamber free. Not bad.

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As for the six sided ring - Hogan canned that the moment he officially debuted on screen in the start of 2010. He made the ring go back to 4 sides. He incorporated a lot of different (to TNA at least) elements. Made it feel like WCW again. Not even an exaggeration either. It really was. Didn't come off too well with a lot of TNA fans. Made the year pretty infamous on that front. Not to mention a crap ECW stable angle vs the new Four Horseman crew. It's...interesting to use a more civil term. The Six-Sided ring made a reappearance at the Destination X 2011 event. It's going to appear once again for one of the taped TNA events for the original crew of the promotion. So, you'll get your fix of it for 2013 too.
Oh that's interesting. I've heard many fans talk about how TNA hasn't been the same since Hogan and Bischoff took over. And on the rare occasions I flick on to TNA these days when I'm bored and there's nothing else on TV, it doesn't feel the same. In fact often times when I tune for a few minutes or so, I have to change the channel it's so bad. I still manage to keep up with who the current champions are and stuff, mainly thanks to this forum, but the fact that Hardy is the current Champion won't bring back to the product at all. Never liked Jeff Hardy. I feel Daniels and Bully Ray should get a World Title run before they retire, both very talented individuals, and Daniels is probably my 3rd favorite TNA wrestler of all time.
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We used to get all TNA PPV's free, I don't think that's the case anymore. The only TNA PPV I've watched in full since I stopped watching regularly in 2009 was that PPV that Aries won the World Title (can't remember the name of the PPV) and I had to stream that show, so I'm not sure we get them free anymore. And if you're curious, the only reason I watched that show was because a friend talked me into it and I wanted to see Christian's appearance on the PPV. It was a average to good show, but it wasn't great to the point that I wanted to watch on a regular basis again.

And if you have Sky Sports here in the UK, you get 4 WWE PPV's free a year, we get Over The Limit, Money In The Bank, Hell In a Cell and Elimination Chamber free. Not bad.



Oh that's interesting. I've heard many fans talk about how TNA hasn't been the same since Hogan and Bischoff took over. And on the rare occasions I flick on to TNA these days when I'm bored and there's nothing else on TV, it doesn't feel the same. In fact often times when I tune for a few minutes or so, I have to change the channel it's so bad. I still manage to keep up with who the current champions are and stuff, mainly thanks to this forum, but the fact that Hardy is the current Champion won't bring back to the product at all. Never liked Jeff Hardy. I feel Daniels and Bully Ray should get a World Title run before they retire, both very talented individuals, and Daniels is probably my 3rd favorite TNA wrestler of all time.
That's boss about the free WWE PPVs. Pretty sweet that MITB is one of them. It's such a consistent franchise.

Ok, so I have to ask this now as you mentioned two different facts from two different 2012 PPVs haha: Which show did you see, Aries winning the World Championship from Roode @ Destination X or Christian return at Slammiversary? The latter was in June and the former was in July so maybe you saw both?

It was pretty good in 2012. It honestly was. Right now...meh. It's actually quite bad pardon a nice shocker last Thursday. Don't know if it is going to be a "good" angle, but it was a surprise. They got points for that. Hardy as champ earns no gripes from me. I've always been quite a fan of his and he's been giving some great face performances since winning the World Championship, so I'm cool. No doubt I'd love to see Bully Ray or Christopher Daniels get their time in the sun with the world championship. They equally deserve it and would be a great guy to hand off from Hardy. The contenders in TNA are really awesome when you break it down. Daniels, Bully, Roode, Aries, & even though I'm burned out personally, AJ Styles is still plenty awesome in the ring so he'd fit right in too. Oh, and Samoa Joe of course. Only he's used in such bad fashion I forgot to list him among guy who SHOULD be main eventing.

IMO the promotion felt much, much different back in 2010 & 2011. Didn't feel like TNA as you said. I thought 2012 got grounded and went back to feeling like the same company again. Only better than past years. The influx of Joseph Park needs to be mentioned. You seen him yet? It's Abyss working as his "brother", a lawyer from Chicago, and my word, it is the best character work in the whole of TNA. Bar none. He's generally the highlight of the week on Impact with Bad Influence (Daniels & Kazarian).

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