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Old 10-31-2012, 05:30 PM   #6041 (permalink)
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:33 PM   #6042 (permalink)
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Two out of Three falls would have been better. Considering the feud, it was a bit of a step back from the "personal/intense" level that it reached, though. I'll peruse youtube & dailymotion for No Surrender 2010. I have to see it.

His start was so promising. Then he worked vs Dinero which I was for. Good way to showcase two new guys getting a push. Then it lead into that awful program vs Abyss. He went away for a few months to form London Calling w/Magnus on Xplosion. Preparing to return to PPV and then boom. Career over. Dammit. TNA could have obviously done more from where he was at in the company when he debuted.
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RVD v Zema Ion - **
Samoa Joe v Magnus - **3/4
James Storm v Bobby Roode - ***1/2
Joey Ryan v Al Snow - *
3 Way Tag - ****
Tara v Assmacher - *
Bully&Sting v A&8 - *3/4
Hardy v Aries - ****
What.The.Fuck?!

This is why I can't take Dave's snowflakes seriously. The guy just LOVES spotfests. What, Angle doing his usual stuff and AJ's pretty jump = ****? Get the f outta here.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:59 AM   #6044 (permalink)
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I guess it is Dave's opinion, but I don't see how ANYBODY could say that the 3 Way Tag and Hardy/Aries are better than Storm Vs. Roode.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:46 AM   #6045 (permalink)
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Roode vs Storm is great, but it's overrated to hell on here. Meltzer's rating on it is actually fair.

Just watched this gem:

Lockdown 2011 - Ultra Male Rules Match:
Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett ~ DUD


Good lord this was a trainwreck.

Submission fall was over and done with in 5 minutes. Bad start. Lazy attempts at working in a submission till the ankle lock was finally locked in cause the random tap out by Jarrett. During that first fall the ref was making pin attempts btw...

Second fall begins and this match is SO boring. Completely going through the motions here. Because while Angle's matches get overrated (here's looking at you Meltzer) you know when he's putting in effort. None was there during this point. Jarrett is an underrated cat, but he's doing shit all during this too. Blah blah blah nothing happens. Jarrett eventually rolls up Angle holding the tights to get the 3. Only Angle, Taz, & Tenay all weren't sure that it really was a 3 count. WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME IN TNA? That end of the fall was seriously underwhelming.

Match goes on. Gunner comes out to make sure Kurt can't leave. Then Scott Steiner comes out to run off Gunner. Nobody cares. Angle and Jarrett eventually meet on the top rope where they prepare a powerbomb spot only something went wrong mid-air and Angle bounces off of his head. Looked like he tried to counter it mid move into a frankensteiner. Lolz. Bad idea. Both are DOWN FROM THE CARNAGE. Jarrett climbs the opposite side, waiting. What's he waiting for? Oh that's right, for Angle to rise up from the dead and hit a top rope Angle slam. Of course. How could I have not seem that coming? Angle opens the door and leaves...BUT WAIT! He wants to continue the punishment. Oh no, nevermind he's leaving. NO HE'S NOT! He's back for the punishment this time~! Jarrett is beat down. Angle goes to the top of the cage and does his moonsault spot that he did vs Anderson the year prior. He completely misses Jarrett. Ouch x2. After both men are down for more filler time, Angle gets up and tries to leave. Karen Jarrett comes back (she was removed from ringside to start) and sprays Angle with perfume. Jarrett works on going out Kurt fights off being blind and stops Jarrett. AMAZING. Ankle lock is on, Karen is trying to pull Jeff out. No go. She magically pulls out a guitar from nowhere. Or behind the steel steps. It's one of those. Jarrett is in the ankle lock and he tries to position himself to nail Angle with the guitar. I know Kurt sees it, but why won't he let go of the hold? He knows that's going to be smashed over his head. Guess he's too busy being blind with REVENGE. Jarrett smashes him with the guitar. lolz. Now Jarrett once again begins to crawl out. That's got to be it...BUT NO!!!! ANGLE IS STILL ALIVE! ANKLE LOCK~~!~! Karen grabs the door and boom it goes right in Kurt's face. Jarrett finally falls out and we have a winner.

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Ultra Male Rules? You gotta love Russo...
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:59 AM   #6047 (permalink)
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Finishing stretch sounds super amazing. Needs more BOLD RED CAPS


I vaguely remember that, was that where kurt busted out an rko? Jarrett/Angle matches usually don't suck that much which is odd.
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Yep. Jacked the RKO because he was pissed when Orton was using the Angle slam at the time.

For those that don't know, Ultra Male Rules is the same as Three Degrees of Pain vs Wolfe at Final Resolution 2009. Don't know why they changed the name to something so cheesy.
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Roode vs Storm is great, but it's overrated to hell on here. Meltzer's rating on it is actually fair.

Just watched this gem:

Lockdown 2011 - Ultra Male Rules Match:
Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett ~ DUD


Good lord this was a trainwreck.

Submission fall was over and done with in 5 minutes. Bad start. Lazy attempts at working in a submission till the ankle lock was finally locked in cause the random tap out by Jarrett. During that first fall the ref was making pin attempts btw...

Second fall begins and this match is SO boring. Completely going through the motions here. Because while Angle's matches get overrated (here's looking at you Meltzer) you know when he's putting in effort. None was there during this point. Jarrett is an underrated cat, but he's doing shit all during this too. Blah blah blah nothing happens. Jarrett eventually rolls up Angle holding the tights to get the 3. Only Angle, Taz, & Tenay all weren't sure that it really was a 3 count. WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME IN TNA? That end of the fall was seriously underwhelming.

Match goes on. Gunner comes out to make sure Kurt can't leave. Then Scott Steiner comes out to run off Gunner. Nobody cares. Angle and Jarrett eventually meet on the top rope where they prepare a powerbomb spot only something went wrong mid-air and Angle bounces off of his head. Looked like he tried to counter it mid move into a frankensteiner. Lolz. Bad idea. Both are DOWN FROM THE CARNAGE. Jarrett climbs the opposite side, waiting. What's he waiting for? Oh that's right, for Angle to rise up from the dead and hit a top rope Angle slam. Of course. How could I have not seem that coming? Angle opens the door and leaves...BUT WAIT! He wants to continue the punishment. Oh no, nevermind he's leaving. NO HE'S NOT! He's back for the punishment this time~! Jarrett is beat down. Angle goes to the top of the cage and does his moonsault spot that he did vs Anderson the year prior. He completely misses Jarrett. Ouch x2. After both men are down for more filler time, Angle gets up and tries to leave. Karen Jarrett comes back (she was removed from ringside to start) and sprays Angle with perfume. Jarrett works on going out Kurt fights off being blind and stops Jarrett. AMAZING. Ankle lock is on, Karen is trying to pull Jeff out. No go. She magically pulls out a guitar from nowhere. Or behind the steel steps. It's one of those. Jarrett is in the ankle lock and he tries to position himself to nail Angle with the guitar. I know Kurt sees it, but why won't he let go of the hold? He knows that's going to be smashed over his head. Guess he's too busy being blind with REVENGE. Jarrett smashes him with the guitar. lolz. Now Jarrett once again begins to crawl out. That's got to be it...BUT NO!!!! ANGLE IS STILL ALIVE! ANKLE LOCK~~!~! Karen grabs the door and boom it goes right in Kurt's face. Jarrett finally falls out and we have a winner.

jesus fuckin christ.
One word describes this match - MESS! This is Russo101 shitfest horsefucking swallow blowjob nookie booking. Fuck this shit to oblivion.

Notes:

- Angle's dance of death where he almost died
- so many technical errors in the match
- why did the Submission Fall had to go first
- stupid cocksucking Hebner counting 1-2-3... in the SUBMISSION FALL
- no ring bells in between Falls, IIRC, therefore - no one actually knew what's the score for awhile
- over the top overbooking
- spots for the sake of spots

Usually, these kind of trainwrecks are at least ridiculosly entertaining, but this was just horror.
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That match can largely summarize 2011 TNA. Barring a couple exceptions of PPVs being solid - good (Destination X, Final Resolution) the rest ranged from very bad (Genesis 2011, Turning Point 2011) to criminally average.
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