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I'm job hunting too (fuckin christmas costing me money and shit. also bills, fuck bills)


JOEY RYAN. Him/Morgan has my attention after last week. I'll see where they go w/ it.


and BFG 06. First one that stood out to me.
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I'm not happy with that "worked shoot" thing about Morgan from last week. Makes me think he might get a push soon. That isn't a good thing in my eyes. Or the eyes of any logical fan of TNA.

Sweet. I know i'm getting a Sabin match that's worth while with that show. I've only recently watched the Monster's Ball so the rest is gonna be a fun revisit.

I'll probably knock out Roode/Aries Hardcore Justice first. To simply put that show to rest. Spoiler alert before review on here: I really didn't think that show was all that good. Average at best. That does beat bad however.
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Victory Road is a throwaway PPV to lead into Lockdown. Really nothing special overall. Aries/Ion, Hardy/Angle, & Roode/Sting are the only ones I can suggest you to look at. Don't expect much from Bully/Storm. I won't spoil that for you if you decide to watch the entire event, but simply letting you know.

Watch Slammiversay. Fun show with a hot crowd. Aries vs Joe is worth it. Daniels/Kazarian vs Angle/Styles has gotten mad praise around these parts as well. If you dig any of the 4, I'm sure you'll be a fan too.

idk how caught up you are with current storylines considering you said you haven't watched since 2010 (pre or post Immortal days?) but I say give a good portion of 2012 a chance as you might dig it. Certainly has been a stronger year, match wise, than 2011. Which was pretty gastly for the majority. Anything you hear about "Claire Lynch" isn't worth your time. Unless you really want to see Daniels be one awesome heel. Be prepared to stomache some crap acting in the process though.

I wrote up a detailed review on Bound For Glory 2012 a few pages back if your interested. It does contain spoilers, so if you're avoiding then perhaps it is best not to take a gander at it. I'm also finishing up Hardcore Justice 2012 atm and I'll post my thoughts/ratings on it soon enough in case you wanted to pursue the entire 2012 PPV calendar so far.
I stopped watching after Bound For Glory 2010. After that I stopped because of work. I finally decided to see how the ppv's have been this year and on paper it looks like there has been a lot of quality from this year.

How was Joe/Angle from Destination X? I remember loving all of their other matches. I actually have Angle/Joe from Lockdown as my favorite TNA match ever.

And holy fuck, I cant believe how well Roode has done as the TNA champion, just reading about everybody he has beaten is awesome.

I need to catch up on the Ace's and 8 thing, and why Hardy/Aries were even feuding heading into Bound For Glory lol.
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Joe/Angle was good actually. Simple match based on submissions and going for the ten points but I enjoyed it, Angle works well with Joe.
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Yeah, Joe/Angle was rock solid, it was an awesome live watch, but not that good on a re-watch. Final rating: **1/2, IIRC.
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I stopped watching after Bound For Glory 2010. After that I stopped because of work. I finally decided to see how the ppv's have been this year and on paper it looks like there has been a lot of quality from this year.

How was Joe/Angle from Destination X? I remember loving all of their other matches. I actually have Angle/Joe from Lockdown as my favorite TNA match ever.

And holy fuck, I cant believe how well Roode has done as the TNA champion, just reading about everybody he has beaten is awesome.

I need to catch up on the Ace's and 8 thing, and why Hardy/Aries were even feuding heading into Bound For Glory lol.
Alright then I know where to base stuff off for you now. Yeah, Roode's been great since going mega heel and being World Champion. He didn't have any major MOTYC on PPV till I'd say about Lockdown when he duked it out with Storm in the cage. It wasn't the best of the year, but it was his best PPV title match for sure. That is until he met Austin Aries at Destination X. Now if you really want to see a match from that event, that's the one you have to check out, imo.

Speaking of great heels who's been on fire: Bully Ray. You got to check out his stuff. He's such a premiere heel and it's phenomenal. Matches vs AJ Styles (Last Man Standing @ Slammiversary 2011) & vs Austin Aries (@ Sacrifice 2012) are incredible. Especially vs Aries. That's my TNA MOTY. Almost certain it won't be topped in the last remaning months either.

Aces & 8's began the Impact following Slammiversary 2012. So if you want to play catch up, that's the starting point. To be honest, the angle hasn't really advanced very much since that time.

Hardy/Aries occured due to Hardy winning the Bound For Glory series at No Surrender this year. It's now mushroomed into Aries going back to being a heel following his jealous for Hardy's popularity. Rematch for Turning Point on 11/11 was signed tonight so it's still continuing if you were curious.

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Hardcore Justice 2012

1) Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Shawn Hernandez vs Kid Kash & Gunner ~ **1/4


2) Bound For Glory Series for 20 Points - Falls Count Anywhere Match:
Rob Van Dam vs Ken Anderson vs Magnus ~ **


3) TNA Television Championship:
Devon Hughes(c) vs Frankie Kazarian ~ **


4) TNA Knockouts Championship:
Brooke Tessmacher(c) vs Madison Rayne ~ DUD


5) Bound For Glory Series for 20 Points - Tables Match:
Jeff Hardy vs Bully Ray vs James Storm vs Rob Eckos ~ *


6) TNA X-Divison Championship:
Zema Ion vs Kenny King ~ **


7) Bound For Glory Series for 20 Points - Ladder Match:
Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels vs Samoa Joe ~ **3/4


8) TNA World Heavyweight Championship:
Austin Aries(c) vs Robert Roode ~ ***1/2



Best way to sum this show up is...AVERAGE! Yeah, I was pretty excited when I turned it on, but as it went on I saw the common theme. Which happened to be nothing was special until Aries/Roode.

~ Opener worked. To my surprise it honestly did. Chavo got beaten down the entire time before leading into the 'back to basics' hot tag, thus Hernandez shifting the momentum for the win. This match REALLY benefitted by going on first. Crowd was super duper hot for it. Don't know if Chavo has ever been that over in his career.

~ Falls Count Anywhere was better than I expected. Magnus is quality, but the hit & miss lazy RVD had me skeptical. Throw in Ken "my work seems to get worse by every match" Anderson and I thought this could have been really messy. Ended up being decent so yay. Ending seemed slightly dragged simply because Magnus couldn't find his "FUCKIN" chair.

~ Television Title...completely average. Yep, that's all I got.

~ Oh lord. The Knockouts title. The Rayne/Hebner crap. Ugh. Tessmacher isn't someone I buy into and it doesn't help with this crappy angle they played into the match either. Rayne wins via some cheap fluke and becomes champ. Whatever. It sucked like I knew it would.

~ I hated the Tables match. Boring. WAYYYY too much Rob Eckos involved. Felt like I saw him more than any of the other 3. Which is gastly. Lets showcase the jobber of the match who has the least amount of talent, charisma, and appeal. I was lukewarm going in to begin with considering the gimmick and being non-elmination and I still was surprised at how weak this match was. Few botches during didn't help things. Nor did those random Aces & 8's run-ins. Bully Ray won though. That was worth seeing despite 13 minutes of blah.

~ X-Division Championship came up short for me. Mostly because while I am fans of both guys, the fans don't care. Why should they? X-Division Championship is the mainstream nobody belt now. It never has any build. They use guys who get zero exposure. The matches have been reduced to random rubble consisting of a fancy move here and there. It's just there. I won't lie, they did TRY to get King over for the match with his tag win on Impact. They earn points there. However, at the end of the day did anyone buy him as a threat? Ion just won the gold and he's actually under a full time contract. It felt fleeting. And of course average. Match was seemingly getting towards a good place then it abruptly finishes when Ion nails the Gory Catapult on King. I hate those sudden finishes. Kills so much momentum from matches.

~ Yep. Even the ladder match was only solid at best. I went in expecting to agree with some people on here that it was really worth a watch, but you know....I didn't think so. I know the reason why. It's because I never buy into ladder matches in TNA. Only one is the exception to the rule: Christian vs Kazarian from Genesis 2007. The only good, substantial ladder match I can really recall them having in their 10 year history. Only parts of the match that were worth something were the moments involving Daniels being abused. Everything else was whatever. Things I remember most ,that didn't involve Daniels dying, were the Muscle Buster/german suplex combo botch(that's too bad) & the finish.

~ Main event was a good follow up to Destination X. Now I don't think it captured the same magic as DX did, although it was a good wrestling match. Only gripe I had was the ref bumps leading into the eventual double pin nonsense. It didn't need that. I was almost tempted to lower my rating a tad due to how much it displeased me. Thought better of it. Didn't seem fair to Roode and Aries for working hard to have another good match. Not to mention the clear MOTN. Both of them continue their trend of being prime over the last year.


So in turn to sum things up this show is skippable pardon the main event. It does come off better than last year's Hardcore Justice. That's where TNA gets the praise for this year. Matches are better, even if the majority is average. Average trumps bad everytime.
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Updated TNA MOTYC list:

1. Bully FUCKING Ray vs. Austin FUCKING Aries (Sacrifice) ****1/2

2. James Storm vs. Bobby Roode (Bound for Glory) ****1/2
3. Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian vs. Kurt Angle & AJ Styles (Slammiversary X) ****1/4
4. Bobby Roode vs. Austin Aries (Destination X) ****1/4
5. Austin Aries vs. Jeff Hardy (Bound for Glory) ****1/4

HM: Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy (Victory Road) ****


So yeah, an awesome in-ring year for TNA. Aries is quality.
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No Surrender 2012


1) Bound For Glory Series Semi-Final:
Jeff Hardy vs Samoa Joe ~ **


2) Bound For Glory Series Semi-Final:
Bully Ray vs James Storm ~ **1/4


3) TNA Knockouts Championship:
Brooke Tessmacher(c) vs Tara ~ DUD


4) TNA X-Division Championship:
Zema Ion(c) vs Sonjay Dutt ~ **1/4


5) Rob Van Dam vs Magnus ~ 1/2*


6) TNA Tag Team Championship:
Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian(c) vs Kurt Angle & AJ Styles ~ **1/2


7) Bound For Glory Series Finals:
Jeff Hardy vs Bully Ray ~ DUD



Oh my god what a terrible PPV. You know when you hear people say "that felt more like a 3 hour edition of Impact", well this is one of those shows. 7 matches, most were thrown together 3 days prior, time consuming segments such as that dumb Aries/Armbreaker brawl, and one of the worst Impact Zone crowds all year.

~ MOTN (according to "ratings") was the tag titles and that wasn't even a good match. A bit above average. It dragged. Didn't need to go nearly 20 minutes. It really reminded me of a tag team championship match from ROH back in 2006 (Kings of Wrestling vs Daniels/Sydal - Dethroned) Solid enough format with the basics, but fell victim to lacking phases and running too long. What those 4 accomplished with a good tag match at Slammiversary wasn't accomplished here.

~ Don't even get me started on that sham of a main event. The story was counter-productive first off. Who didn't want to see Bully take the win after his passionate speech? He's worked his ass off for it, then he goes and gets owned by Jeff in a totally garbage match? Terrible booking. The match was so bad that I literally can't believe it. How many finishes had to be ruined in that one...like 8? Jeff hits the twist of fate on Bully about 5 times. Bully hits his Bully Cutter & Bully Bomb only for an injured Jeff to kick out of. Key word being INJURED. Meaning a badass like Bully Ray can't stop an injured Jeff Hardy with his top moves. I remember working a match like this...with my action figures when I was 9 years old. A 10 minute+ match with nothing but finishers and kickouts. Even back then I thought that was a terrible way to play with toys. Let alone see in a real wrestling match. These guys are way better than this.

Nothing to say about the rest of the event. Have to say Bully/Storm was my favorite match on the show. Only it had to fall victim to the BS at the end. Roode's interference did have a logical standpoint, but damn. Can a match with importance towards the main event in TNA not have a ref bump or shenanigans. Please.
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Wow, I didnt know No Surrender was that bad. I almost bought it today, but got Destination X 2012 instead. Cant believe the tag match is bad as well. I thought it would for sure be a MOTYC.



Anyways, got a review.

Samoa Joe vs Kurt Angle: Destination X 2012

I loved the matches these guys had when Angle came to TNA. All of their matches were 4 plus stars, and if they were not, then they were damn close. I actually have Angle/Joe from Lockdown as my favorite TNA match ever. So that is why I was so excited to hear that they had another match.

The match itself is pretty good, but not on the level of their other matches. I dont know why, because they did a lot in those 15 minutes. Maybe it was the crowd, and maybe it was Joe. He looked a lot slower then he was before. Still, the match has a lot of good moves, and they didnt go overkill with their finishers like in their Turning Point match. I liked that a lot.

Not much story in the match, besides these two just throwing bombs at each other. Its just big move after big move. Not in a bad way though. The pace is good, and the final few minutes are great. I was really happy and surprised that Joe got the clean win over Angle. I mean, I cant remember the last time Joe won a big match.

STARS: ***1/4
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Yeah the No Surrender tag is simply blah. Nothing special whatsoever other than Daniels finally beating Styles on a PPV. Even though Kazarian got the pinfall... It doesn't hold a candle to the Slammiversary match which was loads of fun to watch.

Top of the Joe/Angle matches for me is their first from Genesis 2006. Not too crazy about any of their other bouts. Ironman was decent from what I remember.
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