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AAO ratings

Bryan's:

Kazarian vs. Robbie E ***1/4
Beer Money & Scott Steiner vs. Rob Terry, Gunner & Murphy **3/4
Samoa Joe vs. Pope D'Angelo Dinero *3/4
Madison Rayne vs. Mickie James (Last Knockout Standing Match) 1/2*
Matt Hardy vs. Rob Van Dam **1/2
Bully Ray vs. Brother Devon (Street Fight) NR? (likely just an oversight)
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett ***3/4
Mr. Anderson vs. Jeff Hardy (Ladder Match) **3/4

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Kazarian vs. Robbie E ***
Scott Steiner, Robert Roode & James Storm vs. Rob Terry, Gunner & Murphy **3/4
Samoa Joe vs. Pope D’Angelo Dinero **1/4
Madison Rayne vs. Mickie James (Last Knockout Standing Match) **1/2
Rob Van Dam vs. Matt Hardy **3/4
Bully Ray vs. Brother Devon (Street Fight) ***1/2
Jeff Jarrett vs. Kurt Angle ****1/4
Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Anderson (Ladder Match) ***1/4
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Meltzer smoked some type of coke with the rating for Angle/Jarrett. Great match, but after the ref bump, it fell a few notches with me.

Rather solid show top to bottom though. Nothing great but not bad. Only match that was flat out terrible to me was Mickie/Madison
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Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Anderson - Against All Odds 2011 (Ladder Match)

Although the 18 minutes of match-time flew by, I couldn't help but feel that it was a little too 'formulaic' for my tastes. For what seemed like the entire time, both guys would just take turns with ladder bump after ladder bump, Hardy bump then Anderson bump, with nothing in between. That's just my own way of looking at it. I'll give them their props for taking such bumps though because some of them were pretty unique in a time when ladder matches are done so often. Hardy's bump into the rail looked particularly bad because he seemed to hit his back of the top of the rail, landing worse than Anderson did.

There were some notable botches too. Like when Hardy was supposed to be suplex'd onto a ladder sitting upside down, but he was going way past it, so he stuck his leg out just to have some connection with the ladder. The finish was probably a bigger botch, Hardy was supposed to catch the belt while being slammed off the ladder, but instead both he and Anderson fell along with 2 ladders and Hardy had to no-sell Anderson's finisher off the top of a fucking ladder to go back and retrieve the belt. Even though that led to the completely anti-climatic finish, I'm pleased there was no screwy finish and for once there was actually a 'clean' finish to a TNA PPV. The match felt like it lacked that special something that was needed to take it to the next level, maybe it would've had that if a rematch between these guys hadn't been wasted on TV a fortnight earlier.

***1/4
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Meltzer smoked some type of coke with the rating for Angle/Jarrett. Great match, but after the ref bump, it fell a few notches with me.
I definitely didn't think that, I agreed with the ****1/4 rating myself.


Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett w/Karen Angle – Against All Odds 2011
Okay so I JUST finished watching the match there now, I was gonna go to bed and do a write-up in the morning but I felt oblidged to do one right away. This match was actually way way way better than I’d expected. It’s not like there was anything off-the-charts amazing wrestling-wise, but what there was, was really fucking good and tied in but I’ll mention that in a bit. What made this match so good was the actual emotion between these two. Even if you were unaware of the situation between these two, you could probably tell that these two have personal issues that sway beyong the wrestling business. Outside the ring, the guys seem to be able to work together, everything’s fine. But when they’re in the ring together, it just translates in a totally different fashion. It feels like the issues between these two aren’t yet resolved and that a personal distaste for eachother still exists. After all, how could there not be? Jeff is now living with Kurt’s ex-wife and kids for fuck sakes!

I know the gimmick of the match might seem a little cheesy and it is, but it works for me and made sense with the match. If Jeff wins, Kurt had to send Karen away at their wedding, If Kurt wins, he gets custody of his kids. Right off the bat, Kurt tried to keep his cool, he knew that if he went all out early-on, it’d be wrestling-suicide. He kept with what he knew best and what was effective; his actual wrestling itself. Kurt kept himself dominant in the early going without losing his cool. After all, he didn’t want to risk losing, not even a fluke loss.

But as Kurt grew more dominant, he began showing more emotion, and getting more cocky. Especially when he would tell Karen to slap him in the face, only to beat the shit into Jarrett some more. This slight over-cockiness cost him, as instead of staying close to Jarrett, not giving him any room to do anything, he gave Jarrett space for a second, and it cost him, as Jarrett swung Kurt flying into the ring post.

Jarrett knew he had the animal that was Angle slowed down, even just for a little while. So he began waring down Kurt repeatedly, a smart move but Jarrett just carried a real dickhead feel as he did it. Now might be the most effective Jarrett’s been a heel in years, never thought I’d be saying that after his wife died. Jarrett being the arrogant bastard he is, got cocky too, and instead of learning from Kurt’s mistake, he cost himself by giving Kurt not only room but some recovery-time qnd that led to the Super Belly-To-Belly which seemed to end the first half the match.

The image afterwards of both men, rising from their knees trading punches actually felt important, they both had something to gain from this match, something far more important than bragging rights, personal justice in their own view. After this, things remained pretty even, back-and-forth for the most part. Lots of near falls, false-finishes, ref-bumps, Karen-interferce. Kurt was built up as a real monster in this one, he just wasn’t going to lay down or even contemplate losing.

That’s why I find the ending so fitting for this part of the feud. After a chair-shot to the skull, Angle wasn’t quite as tight as he could’ve been, slightly dazed maybe. But as he attempted the Ankle Lock, a move he usually locks in so expertly, he left his foot hanging and Jarrett caught hold of it, to keep Kurt down and grant himself a victory. It mightn’t have been the way Jarrett had envisioned winning, but it was a victory nonetheless.

The stuff afterwards really drove home the emotion of the match. Jarrett was celebrating like an egotistical ass, while Kurt left his boots in the ring, signalling surrender. For a while Jarrett looked on in disbelief, only to then realise, he’d made Kurt ‘fucking’ Angle surrender. Jarrett then laughed his way backstage as everyone was silent, except Taz of course who explained the whole ‘leaving boots in the ring’ thing to the viewers at home. Commentary wasn't the best in this by any means, I think Tenay said at one point "out-physical'd" which was brutal in itself. I know the whole ‘Angle retiring’ this has been done before, but this wasn’t retirement, this was him seemingly giving up. His retirement was forced by stipulation and didn’t involve any true personal grudge like this does.

I myself thought that the match couldn’t live upto it’s previous incarnations but did it ever! I’d imagined it would’ve automatically been worsened by being in the Impact Zone, but it actually didn’t damage it because for once, the crowd played their parts well and weren’t smarky bitches. Granted, a live arena crowd would’ve been preferred but I’ll not complain. I’d say this match is on the same level as Bound For Glory 08 but below Genesis 09. It certainly does leave me excited for another bout between the two, however I think I’d rather they wait until Lockdown now instead of doing another match at Victory Road.

Fuck me, I love the pairing of Jarrett and Angle to bits. The role-reversal from their previous matches actually works really well too. At least from my perspective anyway.

****1/4
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Just rewatched Bound for Glory 2010 last night, and enjoyed it about as much as I did the first time. I remember not terribly looking forward to it simply because there were no HUGE matches (unlike the 2009 show) and the buildup was really terrible. My review of my second viewing:

TNA World Tag Team Championship: Motor City Machineguns vs. Generation Me
If their match at No Surrender was a smart introduction to this feud, then this rematch is the all-action sequel, like the movie Aliens. A lot of people accuse this match of being a spotfest, but who cares? This match is so back and forth that it really looks like anyone's game. Awesome action, innovative moves, a fast pace, but they were given enough time to wrestle to in order to build up to the end. And I think the action makes sense; they're just busting out everything they can to win. That may be a mundane explaination, but I like the match just that much. A perfect opener.

***3/4

Knockouts Championship: Angelina Love vs. Tara vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne
Typical, unremarkable women's match. Solid action throughout, some good interaction between the Beautiful People, and the finish was interesting, with Tara realizing that she wasn't supposed to win. There are worse women's matches out there, but there are better ones, too. This at least has good star power.

**

Eric Young & Orlando Jordan vs. Ink Inc
Comedy matches shouldn't be at the company's biggest show of the year. Every match should really mean something, and this one doesn't. However, if you're going to do something wrong, you might as well do it right. This match is hilarious. Young's actions are so ridiculous, I've never seen anything like it. This is damn near Santino Marella funny. I wasn't looking forward to this match, but at least it was damn entertaining.

**

X Division Title: Jay Lethal vs. Douglas Williams
The buildup to this was awful. First, Lethal is on the hottest streak of his career, beating every memeber of Fourtune, culminating in a win over Ric Flair. Then he disappears, comes back and beats Williams for the X Title, then trades it with Amazing Red at house shows, and then Williams invokes his rematch clause. As far as I can remember, they had no interaction on Impact. None. No promos, no matches, I think they showed a video of Lethal talking from Jersey, but that's it.

The match itself is solid, but kind of bland. Good difference in styles, and some good action, the best part is the finish, where Williams' desperation leads him to try and adapt the high-flying style, only for it to blow up in his face.

**1/2

Monster's Ball: Rob Van Dam vs. Abyss
RVD had easily his best matches in TNA with Abyss, maybe it was because he just felt more comfortable around weapons, who knows? Their first match was a blast, and this is almost as good. They trade some good big bumps with each other. The story going in was obviously stupid, but if you can past it, this match is a lot of fun.

***

Sting, Kevin Nash, & The Pope vs. Jeff Jarrett & Samoa Joe
Nearly eight months of buildup...for this?!? In the words of the Nature Boy, "are you kidding me?!?"

Seriously, this feud once had potential. Sting apparently turned heel against Hogan and his guys, but what was once promising turned into a disaster, culminating in the fact that no one knew how to culminate it. I mean, was this really the endgame? Sting, Nash, & The Pope vs. Jarrett & Joe.

Seperate the tailspin that the feud went into and look at it on its own, the match is solid. It's fun to see Wolfpac reunited, and Joe has good interactions with all his opponents. It's sad to see Sting, who was in the main event of every BFG he's been a part of , just be shuffled into this midcard bs, but oh well.

Jarrett leaving also made no sense. He's against Sting & Nash, so he enlists help from Joe, so he can leave him? To what end? He doesn't get to his enemies, and he makes a new one. Another illogical plot twist from TNA.

Joe looks like a bmf at the end, though, and it's nice to see Nash wrap up his career with one more massive powerbomb.

**1/2

Lethal Lockdown: EV2 vs. Fourtune
Is gang warfare the right place for the Bound for Glory? Absolutely not. Save that for Lockdown. Styles and Morgan deserved singles matches, Kazarian deserved to do something in the X Division, Beer Money something with a tag team. Not jobbing to the ECW alumni.

The buildup was good and the match is a lot of fun, but once the cage lowers it just turns into aimless punching, and the botched spot on the cage at the end didn't help. Kendrick is an idiot. He had one thing to do and he couldn't do it right, probably too focused on another incomprehensible promo that he thinks make him sound deep or smart.

That said, I do like the match, I just think LL needs to step it up at this point.

***

TNA World Heavyweight Title: Kurt Angle vs. Mr. Anderson vs. Jeff Hardy
This match was about as much fun as I would have hoped. A lot of it was like the threeway with Angle from WrestleMania 22, but no big deal. These three had history and a good mix of styles, and the action was very good. My only disappointment was that it was a bit too short. I would have rather they had another five minutes of action before the end came, because the action pretty much stopped for the last few minutes of the action. It was the same as WrestleMania X-Seven, but at least Rock and Stone Cold got 25 minutes to kill each other before the end. I don't know how much time the end took up, but it definitely took away from ring time. There could have been more.

Personally, I LOVED the ending. I had never thought of Hardy for a heel turn. It was truly shocking. Angle would have been good but predictable, the same for Anderson, but those would have worked, too. The way the end played out was really perfect. I love these kind of endings.

As for they, yeah, that was a letdown. It wasn't a group of new WWE stars. It wasn't MEM. Save for Hardy, it was EXACTLY who we thought it was: Hogan, Bischoff, Abyss, and Jarrett. Der.

Still, this show was a lot of fun, much better than the 2009 show, and one of the best TNA ppvs of 2010. Strongly recommended.

Favorite Matches of All Time

1. Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania XX

2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

4. No Holds Barred Match: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WrestleMania XXVII

5. WWF Championship: Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VI
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True, to a point.

Against All Odds is a fun one-night tournament, Lockdown is fun once you get past how messy it is, Sacrifice is solid, Victory Road is pretty good, No Surrender is good, and Final Resolution was surprisingly entertaining.

But because it had a great live crowd, an organized card, and it felt as important as a TNA ppv could feel, yeah, I'm still going to say it was one of the best of the year. If it can edge out six other ppvs, then I think that counts for something.

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1. Triple-Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania XX

2. Career Threatening Match: Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair - WrestleMania XXIV

3. WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Money in the Bank 2011

4. No Holds Barred Match: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WrestleMania XXVII

5. WWF Championship: Hulk Hogan vs. The Ultimate Warrior - WrestleMania VI
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Final Resolution 2005

Christopher Daniels, Michael Shane, & Kazarian vs. The 3Live Kru - **

Sonjay Dutt vs. Elix Skipper - ***

Dustin Rhodes vs. Kid Kash - *3/4

Raven vs. Erik Watts - **

Special Guest Referee: Roddy Piper
Scott Hall vs. Jeff Hardy - *1/2

#1 Contender's Elimination Match
DDP vs. Kevin Nash vs. Monty Brown - *1/4
They decided the 3rd way to be eliminated was over the top rope. Stupid.

NWA World Tag Team Championship
Team Canada(c) vs. America's Most Wanted - ****1/4
A bit overbooked in the end, but tons of fun and the crowd was ROCKIN.

X Division Championship - Ultimate X Match
Petey Williams(c) vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Sabin - ****3/4
I think everyone knows how fucking awesome this match is. One of the best in TNA history. AJ sold the arm so well and that was such a creative ending to go along with the arm story.

NWA World Heavyweight Championship
Jeff Jarrett(c) vs. Monty Brown - **1/4
It took 2 guitars, a steel chair, a low blow and 3 strokes to finish off Monty. To quote The Miz, REALLY?

Overall: 6.5/10
The X division and the Tag Title match deliver big time, the rest of the card is pure trash. That's a reoccuring theme for TNA.

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Ultimate X 6 or Money in the Bank 1 for best spotfest style match of 2005?
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Ultimate X wins mainly because they didn't have ladders to jump off of, but only by a smidge.

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