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The true problem with TNA right now is the lack of "big" credible moments!

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#1 ·
Moments that make the fans care about the show, get them invested. TNA completely lacks that currently. I mean, say what you will about TNA from 06-10 era hiring ex-WWE names and pushing them over their loyals, the one thing you can't deny is the fact that it created those much needed "big" moments for TNA that made the brand relevant with the fans. Kurt Angle's debut was huge and exciting, TNA had legit momentum at that time. Hogan debuting was mega huge and brought new fans to the show and increased attendance. Sting, Jeff hardy, Flair, RVD, even Booker....all these names somehow, in some way created those moments for TNA that are still part of their history.

Compare that to right now, its like who really cares if Lashley wins the title? There are probably about 900 hardcore fans that truly appreciate Roode representing TNA as its heavyweight champion and honestly MVP in 2015? don't make me fucking laugh. The new guys are even more pathetic.

Point being, TNA brand needs some credibility and for that they need to create these moments that can get the community talking and attract attention. Now, more than ever they actually need a relevant Ex-WWE name who can achieve that for the brand. At the moment, it seems the only way TNA can get fan attention is when good 'ol Meltzer releases their attendance figures.
 
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#2 ·
So you are telling TNA to sign more Scott Steiners and Kane's just for a cheap pop? I am one of those 900 "hardcore" (I guess) fans that think Bobby Roode is the fucking man! Would rather have Roode than some WWE talent who will wrestle 10 minute matches in his debut to win the World Title.

Question: Were the TNA fans from the past actually TNA fans or just fans of the past WWE/WCW talent that was popular in the 90's? I choose the latter. Sure, the X-Division and Tag-Team divisions were great, but most of the people tuned in for Nash, Sting, Jarrett, Angle, Team 3D, Angle, Rhino, Raven, Dreamer, Hogan, Bischoff.

As a fan of this current TNA product I don't want them to do the same shit they did 5-10 years ago. Drew Galloway is the most I would enjoy of an ex-WWE talent. If TNA brings in John Cena, just throwing a name out there, I will stop watching immediately.
 
#3 ·
Tna can have big moments but the booking is not setting these guys up right. Nxt, ROH and even the new company Lucha Underground had their big moments recently. When Joe debut this Sunday, it's going to be special.

I hope Gaburick,Conway and Lagana all leave and hire some creative guys. The booking of ec3 recently has killed any serious potential in the future. Ec3 is now a mid card comedy act.
 
#4 ·
They are working up to a big moment with the Spud/EC3 rivalry. Hair vs Hair at Slammiversary.
 
#5 · (Edited)
I'd really hold off on the EC3 comments until after the Wembley show he main events with Spud, its not being built up for PPV either.

I don't want them to do the shame shite they did 5 years ago, i.e Russoriffic stuff and Velvet Sky. TNA before would have broke the bank for a 40 year old Rey Mysterio, not anymore.

I like what they're doing now, not the horseshit they were doing before.
 
#7 ·
I agree with the heading. I do not agree with the rest. Big moments do not need to be about someone debuting. For one thing, that can happen but once. Once they debut, their debut is over. Add in that it is unlikely to get a "name" guy as most of them the WWE has on lock, even the name indy guys and the fact that most fans check online sites and are up to date on contracts it is hard to make a real surprise pop.

What TNA CAN work on is better story lines and longer more intense matches. Stop having guys turn face to heel or vice versa so much. That way when it happens, especially a face turning heel, it will have more of an impact. Go back to make title matches happen less and build them up more so they really mean something. Even more so when a title changes hands.

While the days of big names making a surprise appearence are probablly long gone, the WWE and The Shield have shown that even "indy" guys can make a splash if booked right.
 
#9 ·
You don't need to sign big name guys in order to have big moments... Look at ECW, Heyman was able to create big moments with his guys... Between dreamer finally beating Raven after a two year feud, to building up taz and sabu for a year and it feeling like the biggest match ever, ect.
 
#21 ·
So true. Of course ECW not being on tv every week actually worked in their favor back then. I wonder if they could have pulled off what they did back then in the current environment. I doubt they could. Not over that long of a period. Between having to have some mention on each week so it did not get lost in the mix and how fans seem to get tired of stroy lines and match ups so quickly these days. Granted better booking would muffle that some but I doubt even the best booking could let a feud go as long these days as they went back in the day.
 
#10 ·
They have to do something to change the current TV recording schedule and ppv structure in place. Taping everything so far in advance and only having 3 big shows a year just kills any momentum they are trying to build up to.

Right now I'd gladly go back to 12 live ppvs a year and bi weekly tapings at the impact zone, it would certainly be an improvement
 
#11 ·
TNA hires ex WWE guys. TNA fans: TNA needs top stop hiring ex WWE guys just for cheap pop/attention.

now it's TNA needs to hire ex WWE guys for the cheap pop/attention.

:lol

TNA just brought in an ex WWE guy in Drew Galloway. they also just used Mickie James.
 
#14 ·
If they're going to hire ex WWE guys I'd go with those that were never stars. Guys they can mold into their own stars. A guy like Justin Gabriel would be good for the X Division. Mason Ryan and Shaun Ricker had a try out recently. Hire Trent? and Rocky Romero as well as Juicy product for the tag division.
 
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They should go after someone who never made it to the main roster in WWE, but has name recognition, like Richie Steamboat. I think his contract with WWE has expired. He is a young guy with name recognition that TNA could build on. And, I don't think WWE has any ownership of the Steamboat name. So, I don't think the name would be an issue. So, if he is ok to perform, and recovered from his back injury and surgery, they should try to get him. They could bring Ricky too, as his manager and cornerman.
 
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I did think it was stupid how little TNA made of the Drew Galloway debut. They were hyping it for like 3 weeks with the connection cutouts on youtube and I thought they were setting up a big debut. Then when the week came for him to debut he hits the ring, almost kills Low-Ki, and you have Josh Matthews saying, "That's Drew Galloway!". 2 minutes later and the segment is over and it went by too fast for viewers to even care. Worse, I don't even think they mentioned his debut for the rest of the show, which shocked me.
 
#16 · (Edited)
The roster (which is lacking some starpower for sure right now) isn't the main reason why they obviously haven't been able to create memorable moments for some time.

You don't hold big shows, you can't create memorable moments. It's that simple. There haven't been a live PPV since last year's Slammiversary. They also tape a shitload of shows in front of the same worn out crowds for months in advance. When they were touring around the U.S. for IMPACT LIVE, almost every show had some memorable moment. The can't be on the road fulltime again for financial reasons, but they have to keep their big PPV shows (Lockdown, Slammiversary, Bound for Glory) as key events - 3 hours, live and on the road. They already buried Lockdown this year and BfG last year. Fingers still crossed for Slammiversary. DON'T THROW IT AWAY, TNA!
 
#17 ·
TNA is fucked because they haven't got compelling singles stars.
There's pretty much nobody on the roster I can look at and say they'd make my 200 favorite wrestlers of all time, except for Kurt Angle and Jeff Hardy back in the day.
 
#19 ·
The problem with TNA is lack of credible ''superstars''.
Honestly, I don't see anybody on that roster I'd shell out money to watch on PPV, or even go out of my way to watch on telly.
I was a huge fan of TNA in 2005/2006.. since then they've completely lost their way.
 
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That is why I'm not watching at the moment. I may watch again but it feels right now like TNA has a small roster working in dark places and the booking is all over the place. Hell I think Hogan did screw up in TNA but man when he came in in 2010, at least there these guys had the mentality that they wanted to shake up the World whatever the cost. That expectation existed. For the time being, TNA are not doing that. They are cruising along like some unwashed hippie in 1967.
 
#31 ·
I agree with the title of the thread.

2014 featured Dixie going through the table and Hardys-Wolves-3D but that's about it.
Nothing big or credible didn't happen aside from that. + I always like to talk about lask of holy shit monets \ big spots which is also the issue with TNA.
 
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#32 ·
There are barely any "credible" main stream top guy out there.
If by miracle they got a Punk or a D. Bryan, then yes... that would make the entire wrestling world talking about TNA. Tho chances of that happening = zero.

At this moment, TNA should be focused in growing new talent and telling good stories.
 
#36 ·
There are barely any "credible" main stream top guy out there.
If by miracle they got a Punk or a D. Bryan, then yes... that would make the entire wrestling world talking about TNA. Tho chances of that happening = zero.
Anything can happen if you want it. For example sure maybe TNA cannot go WCW and get Top guys like during the Monday Night Wars, they cannot match that. But if say they decide to spend money on a great talent like Chris Hero, it would give the company a great adrenalin push. It would more akin to when the WWF in the 80s got guys like Rick Rude and Kurt Hennig. It wasn't as spectacular to the 90s talent crossover cause Rude and Hennig were mainly known in their own territories, they were not big stars yet but they were ready to be, they were top talent and them coming at the right time infused the WWF with a new excitement after the big Wrestlemania 3 fall out.

I think them getting Galloway was that type of fantastic move. But you have to make it count. Which comes to the next point...

At this moment, TNA should be focused in growing new talent and telling good stories.
I don't disagree with that but I'm not sure if they can do that.
 
#33 ·
I agree that turning EY at same time as formation of BDC was not best I am not sure holding off would have been much better. It might have made even less sense. I think one way they could have done things better is have shown or hinted at that during the hiatus from TV MVP was talking in EY's ear about how Roode screwed him over and was not a real friend. Thus EY was more of a pawn of BDC of sorts by them using him to take out Roode or at least keep him occupied so he was not a threat to them.
 
#37 ·
Well what I see as the biggest....wait, to me tna on Friday might have put on their best show ever. I'm not sure any promotion in the world had better promos than Galloway, Magnus, EC3 and Spud on the recent Impact. I care more about a hair vs hair match more than just about anything in pro wrestling right now.
 
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