Wrestling Forum banner
Status
Not open for further replies.

TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the seat

2K views 10 replies 8 participants last post by  Obfuscation 
#1 · (Edited)


This video shows that how primetime wrestlers like Kurt Angle,Sting,Booker T are the reasons why TNA is so popular and is successful but the originals like Somoe Joe ,AJ styles say that we are the reason for filling the seats .
Here are some of the lines said in this video-

Booker T says ,"You know these guys have still not seen the tip of the iceberg yet,they have just saw the beginning.They have a long long way to go and do you know what i think?I think they never will."

Sting says, "Come on ,you gotta be kidding me ,they are gonna tune in to watch TNA to see whats happening because some of the names are on there.It is just stupid."

Kurt Angle says ,"These young guys think that they know everything but they don't.They are not gonna fill the seats ,they are not gonna draw PayPerViews.We are ,if they can't respect that then screw them."

Aj styles says,"For Sting is saying that AJ styles or Joe do not have respect for the business is total ass not that does n't make any sense .How can you not have respect for the job you have put your livelihood in.

Jeff Jarret says ,"A good roster is gonna have a mix up of veterans,primetime players,young guys and stars of tomorrow thats what we got.Being the founder of TNA the stars of tomorrow are difinetly the money drawers."
 
#2 · (Edited)
The fact of the matter ia the only right person is double j.both draw for tna back in 2005 times.a lot of people were behind some of the younger guys.in fact i bet you anything the majority of tna fans went to those better drawer events for the younger guys over Booker t.that guy os delusion if he think he has so muxh credit.he did well in wow yes but not even were he was a big draw.he was still pushed.

But yes tna had plenty of fans even before a single name brand came in.it just helped its great mixed popularity back then.

Now them hsve to do what wwe did in the late 90s.by starting over with building its own stars.

If tna can astablish a diverse roster and not do what wwe us doing right now, they will grow
 
#3 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the



JJ is right but booker T and Kurt Angle said that he will soon show his true colour.Now we have Dixie and JJ is left with only 29% of ownership.

TNA is doing that what WWE does in 90s.If you compare the product of TNA in early 2014 and ending 2014 then you will see that how much TNA had improved.Yeah ,they little bit got lame in the end of 2014 but NYC were one of the best shows i had watched.We will see in January if they are doing right or wrong.
 
#5 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

OP this is a worked promo probably from the Frontline Vs Main Event Mafia days. I don't know why you're posting it and saying it's a shoot and these guys really think that but they likely do not. I know that Jeff Jarrett, Kurt Angle and Sting were very good to the young guys and used to put them over all the time.
 
#6 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

OP this is a worked promo probably from the Frontline Vs Main Event Mafia days. I don't know why you're posting it and saying it's a shoot and these guys really think that but they likely do not. I know that Jeff Jarrett, Kurt Angle and Sting were very good to the young guys and used to put them over all the time.
You're still trying to find logic from TNA fanboys ?
 
#7 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

I don't think it comes down to any one Wrestler. It's the product itself. Look at a list of all the Wrestlers that have ever wrestled for TNA. You will see most of the biggest stars of the past 20 years. Other than the WWE elite like Cena and Orton. At one point or another, TNA has had Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Mic Foley, Sting, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Scott Hall, Booker T, AJ Styles, Mr Anderson, Bobby Roode, Jeff Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Samoa Joe, Bully Ray, Kurt Angle, and a heck of a lot of B+ Players. So if all of those Superstars couldn't bring TNA to the next level, Who can? Did any of them ever draw? Could they have drawn money if booked right? Did everyone fail? Was TNA cursed?

To have a healthy roster you have to have all kinds of Superstars that are great at what they do. And in TNA's case apparently it was never enough. If drawing money came down to individual stars, why didn't those stars draw bigger crowds and sell more merch???
 
#8 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

TNA's issues come down to one thing and that is marketing.

Lets look at the local indies that outdraw TNA's events (Apart from PPV). They'll usually use 1 "big" name which is often an ex WWE guy, they'll use an indy darling as a B-Level talent and they'll draw 300-400 just with those guys around. Now of course the stars they bring in have something to do with this but a lot of fans probably turn up because they get a flyer on their car or they see a poster in a shop window or they see a newspaper article or the local Radio DJ does an interview with the "name" wrestler who is in town.

Hell, a local independent company about 2 hours from me had Hardcore Holly here a couple years ago. Hardcore Holly popped up on the local sports report for the news I believe and got to plug the show. They drew about 400 fans just for Hardcore Holly and a bunch of local Australian indy guys.

The reason TNA fails in general is they don't market their guys. Hulk Hogan is the best example of them marketing a wrestler and it was still a piss poor effort. They had a couple of billboards, one in Times Square (Which was smart) and one across from WWE headquarters to mock WWE (Which was dumb). They had Hogan appear on a few Spike TV shows and that was pretty much it for the marketing. If you look at guys like Angle, Christian, Sting, Van Dam, Flair, Hardy etc they were never marketed to the general public. These guys COULD draw you money but if people don't know they're there how could they possibly tune in and enjoy them?

TNA's main issue is they rely on word of mouth and the internet and that is why they've never been able to move forward. They have now missed the opportunity to market to the regular joe since the move to D.A. Only 52% of people (Or something like that) get Destination America so you can no longer do general marketing. They're stuck. They have messed up and now they're stuck trying to cater a product to a bunch of hardcore wrestling fans who think they suck.

I've said it before but imagine if TNA took the money they were using week to week to pay The Nasty Boys, Val Venis, Orlando Jordan, Shannon Moore and X-Pac (Lets face facts, he wasn't really needed for an nWo reunion with Hall around) and invested it into marketing Hogan, Flair and Hardy to the general public. I'm not suggesting they had the money to air a commercial during RAW but how about airing one during a semi popular TV show? How about having TNA Impact posters featuring the three of these guys that you're paying huge money to in every train station in New York? How about sending Hulk Hogan out to do the TV talk show circuit and promote the fact hes with TNA and how they're the best product on the planet?

TNA's marketing strategy in 2010 absolutely infuriates me. Complete amateur hour and their laziness (or stupidity) likely cost them millions of dollars.
 
#9 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

It's the Brand. It has nothing to do any single stars homegrown or from outside. Look at WWE now(even if some kids go see Cena), they fill arenas for who they are. And it was the same for ECW back in the day. TNA never got that. And the reason they hired the big names it's because they never trusted their Brand to deliver on its own. So you always had something that was half-ass in its identity.
 
#10 ·
Re: TNA originals and primetime wrestler argues that who draws the PPVs and fill the

It's the Brand. It has nothing to do any single stars homegrown or from outside. Look at WWE now(even if some kids go see Cena), they fill arenas for who they are. And it was the same for ECW back in the day. TNA never got that. And the reason they hired the big names it's because they never trusted their Brand to deliver on its own. So you always had something that was half-ass in its identity.
Don't WWE House Shows drop when Cena isn't on the billing? I remember some shows in Spain or something being cancelled because Cena wasn't there.

TNA's problem with actually drawing fans and doing solid numbers in the House Show market is they simply don't care about them.

Here is a recent House Show they did:

Singles Match

Sanada defeats DJ Z

Singles Match

Madison Rayne defeats Velvet Sky (w/Angelina Love)

Singles Match

Gunner defeats James Storm

Singles Match

Ethan Carter III defeats Abyss

Singles Match

Bobby Roode defeats Magnus

Tag Team Match

Team 3D (Bully Ray & Devon) defeat Eddie Edwards & Mr. Anderson
Your biggest name on the card is Bully Ray with your second biggest name likely being either Devon or Mr Anderson. No Bobby Lashley, Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle or MVP who are guys that people want to see. Lashley, Hardy and Angle are TNA's three biggest stars and you can't expect to do a decent house without them. You don't have anyone that the local media wants to talk with and you're basically giving the people in these towns a B-Show with B-level players which basically tells those people that their town isn't good enough to get the stars there.

TNA needs to do an overhaul of their House Shows if they want to successfully start drawing people in. Their brand isn't strong enough to attract the casual fan and without these stars people are just going to stop coming in and seeing them. It's already started to happen.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
You have insufficient privileges to reply here.
Top