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Old 06-24-2014, 09:33 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why does everyone Assume TNA is going out of business?

I don't enjoy a lot of the guys TNA' are pushing to be honest. THAT is what stings so much about guys leaving. I mean besides EC3, The Wolves, and Tigre Uno I don't like the new guard that much. I don't like Robbie E, Jesse, Sam Shaw, The Menagerie, or Gunner.

I'm glad TNA took the title off Eric Young though, AND signing Matt Hardy was a good move because TNA need good tag teams.

I really want to like TNA.
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:26 AM   #102 (permalink)
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"You don't give the show a chance."
No, I've been trying to watch this cluster fuck and try to understand it.

Their problem now is their dull and drawn out stories.

-cough- Aces and fucking Eights.

Right there was probably a huge reason people lost interest in this shit, if not the Hogan trying to make him and Sting relevant to relive the glory days.
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:59 AM   #103 (permalink)
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who the hell is AJ Styles really? yeah the guy WWE had no interest in. is there anyone in TNA history more overrated.
WWE has talent cuts for decades, has anyone ever said WWE was in trouble? but TNA cuts talent and OMG the sky is falling!
has there ever been talks about moral down in WWE? the talent that get released from WWE, do they ever had anything bad to say about WWE?
moral is up and down and up and down. TNA is what, 13 now? obviously TNA must be a female with all these mood swings.
It's like you're trying to make a point but can't because your "points" are so invalid.

You say AJ Styles is overrated because the WWE had no interest in him? How does the WWE not wanting him have anything to do with what he was in TNA? They let Daniels go as well and now look at their tag division. TNA letting Styles and Daniels go would be like the WWE releasing Randy Orton and one of the Uso brothers.

You're comparing apples to oranges. WWE releases jobbers. TNA releases recent champions/upper mid-carders.
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Old 06-24-2014, 01:45 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why does everyone Assume TNA is going out of business?

Just look at the writers or guys in creative TNA have had over the years. Russo, Ferrera, Lagana, Hogan, Bischoff, Prichard, John Gaburick. You have to have WWE on your resume. WWE dont even hire people with previous wrestling experience, yet TNA have to have an ex-WWE writer on board. Its why they will always have an inferiority complex regarding WWE. They'd rather be a mini Smackdown than create their own brand of pro wrestling. They had guys like El Generico and Dean Ambrose do tryouts for them and they passed on them. The mentality is so poor. How do you allow people like AJ, Daniels, Kaz, Shelley, Sabin and Awesome Kong leave the promotion and keep paying Mr Anderson? Their priorities are fucked. If TNA does go out of businesss, what legacy do they leave behind? That they had a TV show that did the same rating for a decade?
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Old 06-24-2014, 02:14 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why does everyone Assume TNA is going out of business?

Because of fiscal woes and lack of star power / fan interest against large outgoings. To the original question...
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Old 06-24-2014, 02:14 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Awesome Kong's departure is perhaps the most laughable in TNA history next to Daphne and Jesse Sorensen. They let Kong go because she punched out one of Hogans buddies who had no fucking business being near a wrestling promotion, much less under contract with one. And TNA marks legit have to wonder why people gave up on this shit?
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:11 PM   #107 (permalink)
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First, WWE had interest in AJ Styles within his first 3-4 years in the business which is practically unheard of today (Especially if you consider it took guys like Daniel Bryan 10+ years to get there)

AJ turned down the WWE because they wanted to sign him to an OVW deal worth approximately 500 dollars a week and he was making a lot more in the indies because he was a hot commodity at the time and was working for companies like XWF and WWA. Of course a year later TNA started and they probably gave AJ more money and the rest is history.

In regards to talent cuts. WWE gets rid of guys that aren't doing anything. TNA got rid of Hulk Hogan, Sting, AJ Styles, Chris Daniels, Chris Sabin, Frankie Kazarian and a bunch of other guys that they probably could use. Replacing those talents are guys like Bram, Crazzy Steve and The Wolves, The Wolves are great but a majority of the others can't compete with the rest.





Someone posted the ROH seating charts for the Basebrawl event and tickets were doing pretty well. That was a couple of weeks ago so I'd assume it's a lot better now.




Talent released that would be classed as good by a majority of wrestling fans is as follows:

AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Chris Sabin, Doug Williams, Frankie Kazarian, Hulk Hogan (Even in a non wrestling role) Joey Ryan, Kid Kash, Luke Gallows, Mickie James, Sting, Taeler Hendrix and Tara

I know you probably don't rate any of the 13 because you wouldn't want to admit any of them were beneficial to TNA but they were and a lot of people enjoyed them.
you can cross Sabin off that list. one of many X division guys who have come and gone.
the same goes for Williams, Kash, Gallows, Ryan. same with Taeler Hendrix who had like what 2 matches.
just because they were enjoyable doesn't make them a big deal. you mentioned replacing with someone like Crazy Steve, as if that's a bad thing. Crazy Steve is enjoyable too. I wouldn't classify him as important though. along with Bram, in the last 6-8 months (I'm guessing) TNA has brought in multiple quality talent. EC3, MVP, Lashley, Wolves.
people want new talent. but bringing in new talent means more than likely they have to replace someone else. not always that easy to pick and choose who. if there are certain talents with soon to be expiring contracts they become top options to not be brought back.


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It's like you're trying to make a point but can't because your "points" are so invalid.

You say AJ Styles is overrated because the WWE had no interest in him? How does the WWE not wanting him have anything to do with what he was in TNA? They let Daniels go as well and now look at their tag division. TNA letting Styles and Daniels go would be like the WWE releasing Randy Orton and one of the Uso brothers.

You're comparing apples to oranges. WWE releases jobbers. TNA releases recent champions/upper mid-carders.
what did AJ do in TNA in recent years? he was good after a gimmick change mid 2013. but the previous 3 years it was the same thing over and over. multiple feuds with the same guys, like Daniels. I used to see people complaining about how he was stale.

TNA has created multiple teams for the tag division through the years, including BI. so they can do it again.

the guys who are mentioned as quality talent, are not released. they had a contract, and that contract came to an end. once the contract is over with there is nothing to release them from. when you are released, you are released from the contract you have. Daniels and Kazarian had their contracts expire. instead of spending more/less/similar money on them, TNA decided to use that money elsewhere.
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Default Re: Why does everyone Assume TNA is going out of business?

Dude when are you going to realize that TNA doesn't have talent left on their roster? No AJ, Bad Influence, Sabin, Angle is hurt, etc.

They have Joe, Bully Ray, Roode, Aries and Storm. That's it. They have no fucking talent. None.


And you're completely wrong too. TNA isn't using that money elsewhere. They aren't using that money at all.
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Dude when are you going to realize that TNA doesn't have talent left on their roster? No AJ, Bad Influence, Sabin, Angle is hurt, etc.

They have Joe, Bully Ray, Roode, Aries and Storm. That's it. They have no fucking talent. None.


And you're completely wrong too. TNA isn't using that money elsewhere. They aren't using that money at all.
even those names are still more than none.
there are other quality guys too, wheather people want to accept it or not. Hardy, Lashley, MVP, EC3. EC3 is pushing himself more and more towards the main event scene, which is more than either Daniels or Kazarian have done in recent years. if Daniels/Kazarian are quality, then half the TNA roster is quality. guys like Anderson and Gunner have done more than Daniels and Kazarian.

it does cost money to bring in the new talent I mentioned.
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Old 06-24-2014, 03:34 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Losing contracts like Hulk Hogan, Sting, AJ Styles, Eric Bischoff, Bruce Prichard, Kaz, Daniels and those dozens of wrestlers they released in the last year and bringing in the American Wolves and Bobby Lashley and Derek Bateman is like trading in a mansion in Beverly Hills and buying Mr Bean's car. They've gotten rid of several million dollars worth of contracted talent and brought in a bunch of guys with no leverage. What leverage does Bobby Lashley have? His MMA career is fucked. WWE will never have him back and he's just went through a divorce. He aint making huge money in TNA. He isn't a star anymore. Where have TNA put this money elsewhere? Unreal the stuff you read on here.
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