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Old 06-24-2014, 03:16 AM   #91 (permalink)
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what have you watched TNA this year its soo bad like i keep saying i watch it for the lolz because its just like how can you suck so much.
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:28 AM   #92 (permalink)
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I'm pass the point of wishing TNA to die so that the wrestling community can at least involve into a different conversation and attitude. It's like a family trip with a kid screaming in the back seat of the car "Is TNA dead yet? Is TNA dead yet?" every 5 mins.
But it's the same old shit every year, ratings drop all around with rock bottoms for WWE/TNA, ROH still can't get a freaking decent TV deal while NJPW's and AAA's TV shows are "soon" to arrive alongside with GFW. Seems obvious to me either promotion don't want to rise or they know fans are full of shit and there's no demand for new pro wrestling or pro wrestling at all.
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Exactly. It also proves that nobody likes a fan boy who is 100% positive even when the company messes up.
Here is where I have problem, people never point out the tna "haters" that are just as bad on the other end. When tna screws up something in 2014, to a lot of them go off and say that makes something that once good in 2006 suck now, like the james storm/chris harris blood match. OR like when people say that tna ruined Chris Harris when it was CHRIS HARRIS that ruined chris harris. Hell I have seen people on here say that kurt angle suffered in tna his entire time there just because tna got bad in 2013, even though in 2008, he ENJOYED it there, he said so himself, he may not like it NOW, now does not mean he alaways hate it. Then they go off and say that all of kurt angles matches in tna are just trash because it is in a smaller company, even though he had some damn good matches that should never be overlooked by any TRUE wrestling fan, he will mostly be known for wwe, but saying his tna carrer sucked just because the company is smaller than wwe just gets to me, it is an insult to joe, aj, roode, storm, and those who had AWSOME matches with Kurt in tna. I hate how tna is the only company that something in the past becomes sucky because of something in 2014.

Hell there are people who act like they are indy fans, just to use the indy scene as an excuse to make a company go under. People like Dalyxman , who won't even pay for ROH pay per views, but has said he wants tna to die for ROH, when he does not even give a shit about ROH. IT is an insult to ROH and the indies and Japan that they NEED to tna to die to get bigger and the fact is nothing with those companies will change, all people are going to do is cut James Storm pay check, the indies that pay well from what I understand won't be like other wrestlers and get decent paying indies, so he will LOSE money, so will Abyss, and others, not everyone is going to get those paychecks on the indies.

Get tired of also saying all tna fans are trash and don't appreciate Aj styles, WHICH IS A LOAD OF CROCK, people don't even go to Asylum, which is the biggest tna fansite on the web and they gave him an award for all the years he gave to tna and he personally accepted it.
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No, it just proves that a lot of TNA fans ignore that the product has been terrible and the audience is dropping. TNA might not be going out of business but it certainly doesn't appear to be doing well. A company like TNA needs positive word of mouth on a consistent basis. They're not in a position where they can afford to put on bad show after bad show and then do one okay to good show.

TNA needs fans buzzing about their shows more than WWE does. TNA has to deliver the majority of the time. They don't have the luxury of being able to to produce a string of bad shows.

People ride TNA's ass because it has to be good.
TNA gets way more bad word of mouth. all over social media, from guys who barely watch the show. it's like the cool thing to do, and to be in the cool club you have to hate on TNA, even if you hardly watch the show. it spreads like wild fire with retweets, and more people comment and those are people who might not even watch the show for awhile now.

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I'm not getting the comparison of TNA letting talent go to the WWE letting talent go. AJ Styles isn't exactly a JTG.
who the hell is AJ Styles really? yeah the guy WWE had no interest in. is there anyone in TNA history more overrated.
WWE has talent cuts for decades, has anyone ever said WWE was in trouble? but TNA cuts talent and OMG the sky is falling!
has there ever been talks about moral down in WWE? the talent that get released from WWE, do they ever had anything bad to say about WWE?
moral is up and down and up and down. TNA is what, 13 now? obviously TNA must be a female with all these mood swings.
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[quote=SpecialFNK;35780218]to use this for any excuse is laughable. as if having an event at a baseball field is going to have a big turn out anyway. how many major wrestling shows have there ever been at these type of baseball fields? TNA should have known there would be a small turn out even before they announced it/sold tickets.


TNA drew 5000 in Brooklyn at their stadium a few years ago...
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who the hell is AJ Styles really? yeah the guy WWE had no interest in. is there anyone in TNA history more overrated.
WWE has talent cuts for decades, has anyone ever said WWE was in trouble? but TNA cuts talent and OMG the sky is falling!
has there ever been talks about moral down in WWE? the talent that get released from WWE, do they ever had anything bad to say about WWE?
moral is up and down and up and down. TNA is what, 13 now? obviously TNA must be a female with all these mood swings.
This right here is the other reason you TNA marks are shit talked. You feel the need to shit talk any guy who was recently released when they say something negative about TNA, and they don't even bury the company most of the time. It's a really shitty, off putting attempt at saving face for no reason. And what's more is the fact that you people talked about how 'awesome' the guy was and how much of a mistake it was letting them go not a week earlier. Please don't make me dig up posts, because I'll open a rant and c & p with no problem doing so. Just in case someone tries denying it.
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Old 06-24-2014, 07:31 AM   #97 (permalink)
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This right here is the other reason you TNA marks are shit talked. You feel the need to shit talk any guy who was recently released when they say something negative about TNA, and they don't even bury the company most of the time. It's a really shitty, off putting attempt at saving face for no reason. And what's more is the fact that you people talked about how 'awesome' the guy was and how much of a mistake it was letting them go not a week earlier. Please don't make me dig up posts, because I'll open a rant and c & p with no problem doing so. Just in case someone tries denying it.
if you want to dig up my history about what I've said about AJ you wont find many good things I've said about AJ. I've been mostly against AJ since I've been watching. from 2010 until mid 2014 AJ spent 99% of that time in the mid card. the only heavyweight title match he had was against Roode when Storm had a legit concussion and they needed a replacement. he was stale until the gimmick change in mid 2014 with something new.
I enjoyed Daniels/Kazarian as a tag team and thought they were really good, but individually they too were mid card talent. these type have spent most of their wrestling time in TNA, and I guess because of that people have to consider them something special. "TNA originals" is such a stupid term. has there ever been a term WWE original?

I'll defend TNA most of the time, because it's all I watch.
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Well to be fair WWE has released talent supposedly as cost cutting move. No one thinks they are even close to going out of business. Companies the world over release employees to cut costs. As far as rumors of TNA being for sale I wonder if that is all due to Jarrett being interested in buying them. If so then WWE should have had rumors of being up for sale as A&E was interested in buying them.

Exactly and thus they are going through the growing pains of all young companies. Figuring out how much to spend to expand and how to get in new streams of revenue to help grow.
WWE released developmental talent and some jobbers, TNA released the face of their company and other higher ranking talent. We can compare the two when WWE releases Cena.
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WWE released developmental talent and some jobbers, TNA released the face of their company and other higher ranking talent. We can compare the two when WWE releases Cena.
who did TNA release that was so good?
AJ wasn't released. he was offered a contract. he choose not to sign and he walked away. TNA wasn;t offering him what he thought he was worse, and TNA only offered what they thought he was worth.
Daniels and Kazarian were not released. their contract expired and TNA did not offer them anything else.

through decades WWE has released/not resign numerous good talent. Hogan, Savage, Nash, Hall, Hart, Hennig, Rude, Flair, Angle, Hardy, ect ect.
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who the hell is AJ Styles really? yeah the guy WWE had no interest in. is there anyone in TNA history more overrated.
WWE has talent cuts for decades, has anyone ever said WWE was in trouble? but TNA cuts talent and OMG the sky is falling!
has there ever been talks about moral down in WWE? the talent that get released from WWE, do they ever had anything bad to say about WWE?
moral is up and down and up and down. TNA is what, 13 now? obviously TNA must be a female with all these mood swings.
First, WWE had interest in AJ Styles within his first 3-4 years in the business which is practically unheard of today (Especially if you consider it took guys like Daniel Bryan 10+ years to get there)

AJ turned down the WWE because they wanted to sign him to an OVW deal worth approximately 500 dollars a week and he was making a lot more in the indies because he was a hot commodity at the time and was working for companies like XWF and WWA. Of course a year later TNA started and they probably gave AJ more money and the rest is history.

In regards to talent cuts. WWE gets rid of guys that aren't doing anything. TNA got rid of Hulk Hogan, Sting, AJ Styles, Chris Daniels, Chris Sabin, Frankie Kazarian and a bunch of other guys that they probably could use. Replacing those talents are guys like Bram, Crazzy Steve and The Wolves, The Wolves are great but a majority of the others can't compete with the rest.


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TNA drew 5000 in Brooklyn at their stadium a few years ago...

Someone posted the ROH seating charts for the Basebrawl event and tickets were doing pretty well. That was a couple of weeks ago so I'd assume it's a lot better now.


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who did TNA release that was so good?
AJ wasn't released. he was offered a contract. he choose not to sign and he walked away. TNA wasn;t offering him what he thought he was worse, and TNA only offered what they thought he was worth.
Daniels and Kazarian were not released. their contract expired and TNA did not offer them anything else.

through decades WWE has released/not resign numerous good talent. Hogan, Savage, Nash, Hall, Hart, Hennig, Rude, Flair, Angle, Hardy, ect ect.
Talent released that would be classed as good by a majority of wrestling fans is as follows:

AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Chris Sabin, Doug Williams, Frankie Kazarian, Hulk Hogan (Even in a non wrestling role) Joey Ryan, Kid Kash, Luke Gallows, Mickie James, Sting, Taeler Hendrix and Tara

I know you probably don't rate any of the 13 because you wouldn't want to admit any of them were beneficial to TNA but they were and a lot of people enjoyed them.

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