Originally Posted by CD Player
Ruth was consistently hitting more home runs in single seasons than a lot of teams were. I find it odd he was only a 3 time MVP.
Ruth won a single MVP, in 1923. You could only win it once back then.
Originally Posted by MrMister
World appeal doesn't mean anything if it's just US. Ruth's popularity is just a great as Jordan's. I'm ok with Jordan over Ruth. No big deal. Ali is the unquestionable no 1 in my view.
Ruth v Jordan...is Jordan still as revered as Ruth is now decades from now? A century from now? Ruth has endured.
Oh btw, Willie Mays > Babe Ruth as a player.
Ruth is the unquestioned #1 baseball player of all time as far as accomplishments go. There is nobody even remotely close. some of his records have been surpassed, but compare his career HR/AB ratio to anyone else in MLB History. Only people near him are juice monkeys, and Jim Thome. His career batting avg is .02 lower than Ted Williams and he slugged .690 through his career
- Willie Mays is behind numerous past and even present players. Mays was good, but his level of play has been greatly enhanced by numerous media outlets who were desperate to elevate a skilled African American ballplayer in the 60's shortly after Jackie Robinson retired. Really not trying to make this a race issue, but I also will not deny facts. Mays numbers are very good, but there have been better players with better numbers.
Compare him on baseball-reference.
As far as those who added Gretzky go - I'd only consider Bobby Orr on par with The Great One, and they played different positions, so #99 being on offense helps his case as the best. I'll relent he is the best for this thread, and would rank him 3rd overall. Maybe 2nd
#1 - Babe Ruth - Utterly and completely dominated his sport like no other
#2 - Michael Jordan - Considered by many to be the best NBA player ever. Might of been. Was clutch
#3 - Wayne Gretzky - could rank him #2.
#4 - Jerry Rice - i think he is the greatest NFL player of all time. Numerous records, should still hold the single season TD record - (caught 22 in 12 game strike shortened season
#5 - Muhammed ali - My issue with Ali is that i would not consider him the greatest boxer of all time. Who would I rank higher?
- Joe Louis
- Marvin Hagler
- Floyd Mayweather
Different weight classes for the last two guys, yeah. Still the same sport. I think Louis may of beaten Ali at his prime, but who knows. Hagler and Mayweather destroyed everyone
at their class. Even Ali didn't do that. Ali held behind the head against opponents often and never had a point subtracted, feel free to watch fights on youtube more closely if you do not believe me.
Originally Posted by MachoMadness1988
Buck O' Neil said in an interview before he died there is a sound he has only heard 3 times off of someones bat. The 3 guys he was referring to were...
I agree Bo was a better football player but he was HOF caliber in baseball too. Guy ran like a deer and was strong as an ox. He struck out a lot but hell so did Reggie Jackson.
Ruth - agreed
Josh Gibson - played against scrubs & drunks. Really hard to know how good he was. Might of been great, nobody knows.
Bo Jackson - I really do believe, that Bo Jackson may of been the greatest
athlete who ever lived. I wouldn't call him "HOF" caliber in baseball, but the fact he made the major league level is tremendous. He was probably a better running back, had a ypc average on par with Jim Brown and Barry Sanders. also could of been an Olympic level track n field athelet, had he trained for it. Fastest 40 yd dash time ever, even still. Threw guys out going from 3rd base to home....from damn near the warning track. (Harold Reynolds). i have never seen speed and power in one package like I did Bo Jackson as a kid.