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Old 10-10-2013, 11:49 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Ruth's called shot is widely disputed. There's actual footage of this, and many think it's not clear why he was doing the motions he did. At first Ruth admitted he didn't actually call his shot, as did many who were there. But later he claimed he did for reporters.
Call me an American mark all you want nothing comes close to this as best sports moment. Greatest upset ever and it's not even close I think.

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Call me an American mark all you want nothing comes close to this as best sports moment. Greatest upset ever and it's not even close I think.

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I don't consider myself a big enough fan of hockey to really understand the magnitude of this. When I think of upsets, Mazeroski's HR in 60 has always topped my list.
Back on the OP, Ali holds two of history's biggest upsets with Liston and Foreman
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I don't consider myself a big enough fan of hockey to really understand the magnitude of this. When I think of upsets, Mazeroski's HR in 60 has always topped my list.


Imagine like an 11 seed in the NCAA basketball tourney winning the title.

Well that homer was huge. Yankees actually dominated that series.

Some other great upsets...

Rulon Gardner over Alexander Kerelin (had not lost in 13 years) in the 2000 Olympics
NC State winning the 83 national title in hoops
69 Mets winning the World Series
Fresno State winning the national title in baseball in 2008 (barely got in the ncaa tourney....imagine a 14 seed winning it in hoops)
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Imagine like an 11 seed in the NCAA basketball tourney winning the title.

Well that homer was huge. Yankees actually dominated that series.

Some other great upsets...

Rulon Gardner over Alexander Kerelin (had not lost in 13 years) in the 2000 Olympics
NC State winning the 83 national title in hoops
69 Mets winning the World Series
Fresno State winning the national title in baseball in 2008 (barely got in the ncaa tourney....imagine a 14 seed winning it in hoops)
If I'm not mistaken on this Karelin didn't even have a point scored on him in like 6 years. He was getting some age on him as well. Had it been the olympics begore that I would put it up there.

Giants beating the Patriots was huge and of course Super Bowl 3, too.
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Correct about Karelin.

Giants (with their backup QB) beating the Bills in SB 25 was a huge upset as well.
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Correct about Karelin.

Giants (with their backup QB) beating the Bills in SB 25 was a huge upset as well.
I know a lot more is factored in with Ali, Jordan, and Ruth when you think about being the greatest such as popularity, being a pioneer and so forth, but it is hard to say that anybody was more talented at their sport than Kerelin was at his, Anateur wrestling just isn't as popular, but to even fathom that someone went undefeated for 15 years and didn't even have a point scored against them for 6 of those years is hard to even wrap the mind around. I know Mayweather is undefeated, but it's not even close to how dominant Karelin was

Another thing about Gretzsky is the fact that he could have never scored a goal and would still own the scoring record on assist alone.

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Baseball players today play against the best players, of any ethnicity, from different corners of the world. Babe Ruth played against white Americans and only white Americans. That has to give anyone pause when using his production as his legacy. You can't tell me if you plopped current Miguel Cabrera in Ruth's era and gave him a bat that he wouldn't be just as good or close to it.

Michael Jordan is perhaps the biggest asshole in the history of team sports and got out in just the nick of time. The Internet Era would have absolutely destroyed this guy with rampant stories of gambling, infidelity and otherworldly prickish behavior (the guy used to spit on pastries in crowded rooms so no one else could eat them). He also dominated an era in the NBA of which there are very intriguing arguments that it wasn't all that strong. Also the beneficiary of blatant officiating bias.

Ali, as a public figure, was simply awesome. A million times more guts than any sports star who has come since. Best heavyweight ever - period.
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He also dominated an era in the NBA of which there are very intriguing arguments that it wasn't all that strong. Also the beneficiary of blatant officiating bias.
I agree with this on the all time level. I think if the 95 Bulls were put against the 85 Celtics or 86 Lakers that they would not see a 7th game with either of them.
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