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Old 10-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #681 (permalink)
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Apparently you do when your name is Chael P. Sonnen. An entire season of Chael is going to be amazing, he's going to own Jones on the show, shit talking wise. Shame he's going to get destroyed.
Who else is there at 205 that Jones hasn't beat already? Gustafsson? Davis? Both are getting a slow rise. There is no one else.

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I dunno an argument could be made in Lesnar's case when he got a title shot against Randy Couture at UFC 92. Beating some random dude & Heath Herring (and he probably would have beat Mir if not for Mazzagatti) really worth giving the guy a title shot, or was it because of his hype and popularity.
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Lesnar got the shot that early due to his name and a lack of depth in the division at the time. That was an interesting fight.
^ lack of depth is the main reason. He smacked Mir in his UFC debut until a ridiculous break then he got subbed. He had a few fights and there was an interim title b/c of Randy being out of the UFC. So really from memory there was like 5 guys fighting over 2 belts. Big Nog, Sylvia, Mir, Couture and Lesnar. Thats a huge chunk of the division. Werdum, Kongo, Gonzaga, Herring were others, Arlovski was on his way out, CAIN and JDS were just beginning in the UFC as well so yes his name helped vault him into contention over fighters with a bigger fighting background but he also had a lot of hype surrounding his entrance into the UFC and he had a dominant debut and follow up performance. If they had kept him away and fighting someone else you run the risk of him losing to a mid card guy and then all that hype goes away.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:55 PM   #682 (permalink)
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Giving chael a title shot in this day and age where there are contenders with winning streaks and legitimate records to fight Jones, is making a mockery of the sport. It looks like ratings and money is beginning to ruin another sport.
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That's a tad dramatic.
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It does illegitimize the sport a bit, and I say this as a huge fan of Sonnen. Going from a loss to Anderson Silva straight to Jon Jones without even once fighting an opponent at Light Heavyweight when there are other more deserving guys in that division for that title shot.

This will be the first time I'll be tuning into Ultimate Fighter weekly though. Chael is going to fuck shit up even though he's probably going to get killed when him and Jones eventually fight.
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I might mark out so hard that my heart explodes if Chael can pull it off. It isn't happening though, and I know that.
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What happen to that stipulation at the Fox Event where the most impressive winner gets a title shot?

And on Chael has anyone gotten a Title Shot after a loss? Not including rematches.
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Chael should of won the first fight with Silva, and they should be having a rubber match IMO. I think Silva could beat Jones, and saying Sonnen can beat Jones isn't that far fetched IMO. I hope Sonnen wins to be honest, because it will take people's focus off Jones vs Silva, and put more focus on Silva vs GSP - a fight I would much rather see. Like him or hate him, Sonnen isn't garbage, and he brought the fight to "The Greatest of all time" like noone else has anytime recently. Compare Sonnen to Bonnar, who was completely outclassed.
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I jumped out of my chair when I heard the news. Jones doesn't really have anyone else, a big name that is, to face other than Chael Sonnen. It's a little silly that he's getting a title shot without having a fight in the Light Heavyweight division but I'm not going to complain.

It's going to be a very entertaining season of TUF and one I'll be watching weekly. It's logical to believe Jones is going to win but I have to believe Chael Sonnen can do it. Come on Chael!

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Chael should of won the first fight with Silva, and they should be having a rubber match IMO. I think Silva could beat Jones, and saying Sonnen can beat Jones isn't that far fetched IMO. I hope Sonnen wins to be honest, because it will take people's focus off Jones vs Silva, and put more focus on Silva vs GSP - a fight I would much rather see. Like him or hate him, Sonnen isn't garbage, and he brought the fight to "The Greatest of all time" like noone else has anytime recently. Compare Sonnen to Bonnar, who was completely outclassed.
You are a bigger Sonnen mark than Walls. Jesus christ ny

Why do people want to see GSP/Silva? GSP has a bunch of worthy contenders + he's coming off an acl tear. No point in holding up the division.
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I am a ridiculously huge Sonnen mark but I also have a brain. Not a chance he gets past Jones. With Anderson, he had a legit shot. But not with Jones.


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