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post #661 of 5518 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 11:22 PM
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No, It's just that Jones is a monster who's destroyed Rampage, Shogun, Machida, Evans, & Belfort. Those 5 guys outdo pretty much 50% of Anderson's competition he's beated. Jones is the best wrestler at LHW and is much larger than Anderson. Just as Anderson would bully GSP, Jones would bully Anderson.
You're really underplaying how good Anderson Silva is. The guy is a freak when it comes to striking, has a black belt in Jiujitsu and has deadly submissions, dangerous in the clinch, can take a fucking punch and act like it's nothing, great takedown defense and overall the greatest fighter of all time as of right now.

Like you, I think Jones would beat Anderson, but it's not like I would bet everything I owned on Jones. Nor would it be a cakewalk for Jones. Silva isn't a fucking slouch, and he's in a completely different level then the guys Jones has already fought thus far.


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Silva/Jones is more appealing to me personally. I think Anderson doesn't want the fight because he knows he will lose and that will fuck up his legacy. GSP is a safe fight for Anderson. He has every advantage going into that fight and barring some miracle he will own GSP.
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My Jiu-Jitsu classes are starting soon. Time to learn how to choke some fuckers out


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You're really underplaying how good Anderson Silva is. The guy is a freak when it comes to striking, has a black belt in Jiujitsu and has deadly submissions, dangerous in the clinch, can take a fucking punch and act like it's nothing, great takedown defense and overall the greatest fighter of all time as of right now.

Like you, I think Jones would beat Anderson, but it's not like I would bet everything I owned on Jones. Nor would it be a cakewalk for Jones. Silva isn't a fucking slouch, and he's in a completely different level then the guys Jones has already fought thus far.
He has great takedown defense but so does, Machida, Evans, & Rampage. Sure Anderson has great striking, but he's a counterstriker, and one that has to deal with the reach of Jones. Don't underestimate Jone's submission game also. And Jones in the clinch is game over for Anderson. He gets him in the clinch, he can not only knee him, but he can TD him from there and dish out his game.

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post #665 of 5518 (permalink) Old 10-15-2012, 11:52 PM
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not sure if you are really in love with Jones or really underrate Silva.


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post #666 of 5518 (permalink) Old 10-16-2012, 12:08 AM
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He has great takedown defense but so does, Machida, Evans, & Rampage. Sure Anderson has great striking, but he's a counterstriker, and one that has to deal with the reach of Jones. Don't underestimate Jone's submission game also. And Jones in the clinch is game over for Anderson. He gets him in the clinch, he can not only knee him, but he can TD him from there and dish out his game.
You make very valid points, and I'll give you credit for them. I still think your underrating Anderson, but that's fine. You have your reasons. I think we all can agree that this fight has to happen, and it's certainly ALOT more interesting then GSP/Silva. Anderson always seems to shut down the idea of ever fighting him though which is disheartening.

Money changes everything though. They could sellout Cowboys Stadium with this fight and a couple other big title fights. Probably will get in the vicinity of UFC 100 if not more buys. The fight is a goldmine waiting to happen.


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Jones said he won't coach TUF with Cormier because he's not popular enough.

I guess he should go and get some fans.
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That would be an interesting fight. Jones takes it, it would be much like Jones/Rashad.
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So Chael is giving Jones a shot at winning the belt back that he lost to Chael by forfeit.

It'll be the first time I watch TUF in god knows how long.

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Chael vs Forrest is off (hello Rampage vs Forrest). Chael is now the number 1 contender for the 205 belt and will face Jones on April 27th. Bones and Chael will also face off in the next season of TUF, huge news!

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The match which didn't happen at UFC 151 is coming next April.

In a Tuesday bombshell, The Los Angeles Times broke news that UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones and Chael Sonnen will serve as coaches on the next season of "The Ultimate Fighter," then meet in a coaches' fight on April 27.

UFC president Dana White told the Times' Lance Pugmuire that Jones' elbow injury, suffered in his Sept. 22 bout against Vitor Belfort, will require extensive physical therapy, which will put him on the sidelines for the foreseeable future.

"This should be a good one," White told the Times. "Jon has accepted the fight. He knows the fans want to see that fight."

By putting Jones on "TUF," White kills two birds with one stone: He keeps the champion busy while hyping what could be the biggest-selling bout of 2013, while also using star power to revive a listing "Ultimate Fighter" franchise. Last Friday's edition of TUF drew just 624,000 viewers on FX, the lowest rating in the show's 16-season history.

Jones vs. Sonnen was initially proposed as a replacement main event for UFC 151 on Sept. 1 after Jones' scheduled challenger, Dan Henderson pulled out less than two weeks before the fight due to a knee injury. Jones declined the bout, then White pulled the plug on the entire fight card, the first event cancelation in Zuffa history.

Last week, though, Jones sent out signals he would be receptive to a bout with Sonnen, tweeting "The more I realize how bad the fans want me to fight Sonnen the more I am beginning to disregard whether he deserves it or not."

Sonnen responded on Twitter: "You don't give. I TAKE. Remembah that, Bonesie-boy."

White indicated to the Times that Sonnen will not fight between now and April 27, meaning his planned Dec. 29 bout with Forrest Griffin appears off.

No venue was announced for the April 27 bout.

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