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Old 10-15-2012, 03:38 AM   #651 (permalink)
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Jones is the only one I can see that beats him. I think if Jones keeps things up the way he is, he will easily surpass Anderson as the GOAT.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:26 AM   #652 (permalink)
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yeah, he takes down everyone at 170. That doesn't mean he can do it to everyone in any division.

Yeah he survived a tight armbar. Against a guy who Anderson beat in a minute.

You talk about size advantage between Jones/Silva but no mention of that between GSP/Silva? Just a convenient slip of the mind eh? Its obviously not as pronounced as the difference between Jones/Silva but thats no reason to disregard it.

I'm not saying to look past what Jones brings to a fight. I'm saying look at what each fighter brings to the respective fights.

GSP: Excellent wrestler, great striker, excellent top game on the ground, fairly untested off his back
Silva: Elite striker, good takedown defense, great off his back, active guard
Jones: Excellent striker, huge reach, power + size advantage, unpredictable, excellent wrestling.

Silva/Jones is a far more intriguing fight than Silva/GSP, especially as Jones really doesn't have anyone left, all of Silva's contenders need at least 1 more fight to push their claims for a title shot, and GSP has a Condit, Diaz, Kampmann and, if they agree to it, Rory MacDonald to fight.
MMA math doesn't work. Just because Anderson beat Vitor quicker than Jones did, doesn't mean Anderson would beat Jones.

Machida destroyed Evans inside two rounds, while Jones decisioned him. Does that equal Machida over Jones?

I agree with you on that Jones vs Silva is the better match-up
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I didn't say Anderson would beat Jones, nor am i trying to use mma math. Just pointing out that Belfort got disposed of easily and quickly. Its not like he was meant to be a threat against Jones either. He shouldn't have even let it get to the point of having to escape an armbar. The point is that surviving that tight armbar from Belfort doesn't allow anyone to make an argument that Jones can defend every submission that Silva could potentially apply.
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Vitor's Arm Bar was slick as fuck though. Jon had his hips in the wrong position for a second and Vitor locked that shit on quick.

I don't see Anderson subbing Jones. Jones is just too big and once Jones is on top of Anderson he's going to handle him pretty easily. I don't think Jones would just sit in Anderson's guard either, I don't see why. He in theory would be able to handle Anderson on the ground pretty easily.
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Jones getting on top of Silva would be lethal. He not like Sonnen where he would throw hundreds of weak punches. He would rain down those hellbows and do some serious damage. From the guard too.

Assuming he could get him down of course. Which I think he'll be able to do.
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I'd want Anderson to win, cause I think Jones is a tool.

But if I had to take my emotions out of it, I would say Jones wins 6 times out of 10 against Anderson.
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I didn't say Anderson would beat Jones, nor am i trying to use mma math. Just pointing out that Belfort got disposed of easily and quickly. Its not like he was meant to be a threat against Jones either. He shouldn't have even let it get to the point of having to escape an armbar. The point is that surviving that tight armbar from Belfort doesn't allow anyone to make an argument that Jones can defend every submission that Silva could potentially apply.
Jones submitted two black belts.

Just don't see Anderson/Jones being a competitive fight when Jones can easily take Anderson down and finish him with GNP.
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Fuck me either you guys underrate Silva or like polishing Jones' nuts.

Submitting 2 black belts does not mean you can defend. And for the tenth fucking time, im not saying Anderson would win, im saying it would be competitive. Its far closer than GSP/Silva. Seriously, provide a logical way for GSP to beat Silva. You havent made any case because a) you dont have one and b) you enjoy kissing Jones' ass.

Jones is an incredible fighter, against another incredible fighter in Silva. It is far more of an appealing fight.
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Fuck me either you guys underrate Silva or like polishing Jones' nuts.

Submitting 2 black belts does not mean you can defend. And for the tenth fucking time, im not saying Anderson would win, im saying it would be competitive. Its far closer than GSP/Silva. Seriously, provide a logical way for GSP to beat Silva. You havent made any case because a) you dont have one and b) you enjoy kissing Jones' ass.

Jones is an incredible fighter, against another incredible fighter in Silva. It is far more of an appealing fight.
No, It's just that Jones is a monster who's destroyed Rampage, Shogun, Machida, Evans, & Belfort. Those 5 guys outdo pretty much 50% of Anderson's competition he's beated. Jones is the best wrestler at LHW and is much larger than Anderson. Just as Anderson would bully GSP, Jones would bully Anderson.
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No, It's just that Jones is a monster who's destroyed Rampage, Shogun, Machida, Evans, & Belfort. Those 5 guys outdo pretty much 50% of Anderson's competition he's beated. Jones is the best wrestler at LHW and is much larger than Anderson. Just as Anderson would bully GSP, Jones would bully Anderson.
which brings me to my next point, how do you foresee a fight with GSP and Silva going? GSP can't take him down, he can't submit him, he has no muay thai game and his striking doesn't hold a candle to Silva. Jones/Silva holds far more intrigue.
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