so you bitched out. thats embarrassing.
because you can't read, i'll show you what i said yet again:
and by the way, i didn't report you because i "couldn't handle the argument." i reported you to get you banned, and it worked flawlessly. how would "not handling the argument" even work? you could come back a week later and still respond, couldn't you? what the fuck?
do you have selective reading because of your shattered internet ego? you've done irreversible damage to it.
which is what i said. People do debate about these guys, thats what i said, and then you said the exact same thing there. Oh wait, am i being pedantic about the meaning behind those words. Jeez, i wonder how that feels
oh my god. i legitimately think you have schizophrenia or something. like... you're actually fucking insane.
original post unfortunately made by you:
"Gomi is past his prime, that doesn't stop anyone calling Fedor the GOAT, Liddell, Wandy etc for continuing to fight, and lose after already creating a lasting legacy. "
you are saying that losing fights past your prime doesn't hurt your legacy initially. then you use an imaginary idea that "losing fights doesn't stop anyone from calling Fedor/Liddell/Wanderlei the arguable GOAT in their divisions." but that's the thing... it does. that's what i said. them losing fights past their prime HAS damaged their legacy in other peoples eyes. yes, some people like you don't think so (because you aren't very smart), but the point is that fighters losing DOES make people re-think about their legacy and status as best of all time.
i just... i can't possibly make things any less watered down than i already have. you're impossibly dense. just absolutely, completely and utterly impossibly dense. it's fucking scary.
3 losses damaged his legacy? The criticisms of Fedor that get thrown up now, are the same that got thrown up beforehand.
what a fucking gem this is. hello, earth to MMA Elitist, PEOPLE USE HIS 3 LOSSES TO ACCENTUATE THAT HE WAS FIGHTING CANS THE WHOLE TIME. what part of that can't you possibly grasp? goodness fucking gracious, it's such a simple, common concept that is very, VERY frequently used in ANY MMA discussion about Fedor. if you knew what you were talking about, you'd know this.
because you need everything spoon-fed to you and brought down to like a first grade level, here, i'll dumb THIS down for you as well.
1)Fedor has amazing record (like 30-1! basically 30-0! wee! can you count to 30?)
2)People point out that he fought a lot of cans (there is a wikipedia article on what a tomato can is, since you don't know more than likely)
3) People argue one way or another
4) Fedor loses 3 fights in a row to good talent
5) anti-Fedor people use these fights to prove that he wasn't that good after all
, because you need it burned into your small mind, understand that despite the "argument" being the same for Fedor not being as good as he was before and after the losses, people use those losses to re-enforce their original point that he was fighting cans. which again, goes back to his legacy being damaged in general MMA discussions.
woah, that was fucking hard!!
It doesn't deserve to be main eventing. This goes back to the amount of shows argument, even for a free show it is not a quality main event. Its nothing but a grab for money from people coming through the gate.
doesn't change the fact that you called it a useless fight and both fighters have potential. oh wait, let me guess, by useless fight you mean "it's a useful fight, but it's not a main event, anyone with a brain could see what i meant!" LOL
are you calling my opinion fucking retarded. might have to cry to a mod about that. Hurts my massive internet ego, you're out of line
your thought process is messed up. i don't think messed up is the phrase for it, you just... can't read. i don't know what else to say.
Talent that BJ Penn did? Aoki fought the best of the guys who weren't in the UFC (and some that were). Penn fought the better fighters, but its not like Aoki was ducking and taking easy fights.
who said Aoki was ducking or taking easy fights? i pointed out a fact --> BJ Penn fought better talent than Aoki. why would you even spend time responding to that if you clearly agree here? don't start making strawman arguments too man, come on. i know you're fighting a losing battle right from the get-go, but i'd rather you just stop responding and accept the fact that you're wrong for the zillionth time as opposed to constantly reaching for anything you can get your hands on. it's sad to see the MMA Elitist reduced to this.
You don't consider Royce Gracie to have had an impressive career? wow.
point out where i said that. go ahead, i'll wait. oh wait, you can't. joker.
I bring up Gracie as an example of a great fighter, who is one dimensional. You do not consider anyone who isn't a completely well rounded fighter in you discussion so that counts out Cro Cop, Liddell, pretty much anyone who built the sport, etc. I'm not arguing that he is the GOAT, or that he should be compared with Penn or Aoki. Its a seperate point in the discussion, you don't ever seem to grasp that with anything.
To be clear, b/c you're going to harp on it again, its a point against a point in your argument on what makes a fighter a GOAT. It isn't on a tangent, its related to your shaky argument.
goldmine. truly a goldmine. i wish i had a signature big enough to fit your senseless statements. i really do.
anyway, i never said someone who is one dimensional can't be the best in their division or in a sport in general. i said Aoki was one dimensional, compared to BJ Penn, who wasn't. i was using a specific argument with 2 people, it wasn't hypothetical. it's an odyssey for you to grasp this, much like anything else MMA related, i know, but there you have it.
and just because i feel like i have to repeat it just so you fully understand:
1) you are accusing me of saying a one dimensional fighter can't be the best in his division
2) you must have forgotten that i was directly comparing Aoki to Penn, not generally speaking.
please let me know if you need this repeated a 3rd, 4th, and 5th time. i feel like i'll probably have to, evidenced by your "so you actually bitched out" post to start off your wall of terrible illogic. i clearly refuted what you said, and you just repeated yourself. it's like arguing with a 10 year old. really, it is.
which anyone with a brain could see is what i meant
so if someone thinks the following statement:
If BJ Penn applied himself, he could have been the LW GOAT
doesn't correlate to this one:
BJ Penn is the GOAT, but he could have been the GOAT far and away if he applied himself
they don't have a brain? stop while you're behind, kiddo.