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Old 08-01-2013, 12:01 AM   #3891 (permalink)
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Dana probably laughed when he heard about the announcement. Can Tito's body even survive a training camp?
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Old 08-01-2013, 12:18 AM   #3892 (permalink)
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It's the fight that's going to make Bellator the most money right now. I really don't blame them. Rampage/Ortiz is going to get eyeballs whether because of ridicule or interest. I'm sure Rampage and Ortiz will also have their pro-wrestling mouths on in the lead up to that fight as well. It's a good move by Bellator.

The best part is that if you load that card up with Ben Askren and/or Michael Chandler fighting, you'll hopefully be able to establish them as stars as well in the eyes of the people watching for the first time.
Everyone is laughing at this fight though. It's the most ridiculous decision in a long time. Ortiz has one win since 2006 and Rampage has been below average for years. This fight would have drawn money back in 2005 but now it's a joke.
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Seriously? What were they supposed to do otherwise? Throw Chandler/Askren out there on pay-per-view when absolutely no one would buy it? Bellator made a wise decision considering what resources they had. Ortiz and Rampage are their two biggest stars, and they pit the two together.

Rampage is a proven draw, even these last couple of years. Ortiz is Ortiz, but he's certainly a bigger name then anyone else in Bellator. Just because a fighter isn't as relevant and good in a division as he once was, he still has star power and the ability to draw eyeballs. Look at Chuck Liddell. Liddell's last fight had over 500,000 buys against an impromptu opponent in Rich Franklin, where he was also fighting after getting brutally knocked out 3 times.

Go look on Twitter and sites like Yahoo. Bellator is already getting more press then ever before by just announcing this fight. Whether people will be watching to see a train-wreck or because their actually interested, it'll still give Bellator some attention and buys.
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was at that "UFC World Tour" press conference (or whatever they are calling it) at Beacon Theatre today. Was so close to Ronda Rousey but I came unprepared with nothing to sign, and with a shitty phone camera. I really can't wait for Rousey/Tate, I will probably watch TUF with them as coaches this season.

Some pretty good fights lined up this year. Expect Jones to retain, same with GSP. Cain/JDS III gonna be good.

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I want to see Paul Daley back in the UFC now he's been released from Bellator. Dana says he doesn't know but Ariel is trying hard to get him in. I say give him another chance, and the visa issue thing shouldn't be a problem considering Manuwa is signed to the UFC and also, has his own visa issues which only allows him to fight on UK cards.
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Everyone is laughing at this fight though. It's the most ridiculous decision in a long time. Ortiz has one win since 2006 and Rampage has been below average for years. This fight would have drawn money back in 2005 but now it's a joke.
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Seriously? What were they supposed to do otherwise? Throw Chandler/Askren out there on pay-per-view when absolutely no one would buy it? Bellator made a wise decision considering what resources they had. Ortiz and Rampage are their two biggest stars, and they pit the two together.

Rampage is a proven draw, even these last couple of years. Ortiz is Ortiz, but he's certainly a bigger name then anyone else in Bellator. Just because a fighter isn't as relevant and good in a division as he once was, he still has star power and the ability to draw eyeballs. Look at Chuck Liddell. Liddell's last fight had over 500,000 buys against an impromptu opponent in Rich Franklin, where he was also fighting after getting brutally knocked out 3 times.

Go look on Twitter and sites like Yahoo. Bellator is already getting more press then ever before by just announcing this fight. Whether people will be watching to see a train-wreck or because their actually interested, it'll still give Bellator some attention and buys.
I understand that Ortiz and Rampage are their biggest stars and all of that stuff. The fight is a joke but my biggest problem is that they're going to make people pay for it. If you don't have big enough stars then hold off on the PPV but don't throw Ortiz vs. Rampage as your main event for a PPV in 2013. People aren't getting this fight for free instead you actually have to pay for this fight.

Sure it'll get Bellator a bunch of attention and they need all of it. I seriously doubt this will reach Chuck Liddell numbers though. It'll draw decent numbers but I find it funny that this is something Bellator is asking it's fans to pay for on PPV.
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fuck paul daley. he's an average fighter with massive problems with attitude and staying on weight for his fights.
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I understand that Ortiz and Rampage are their biggest stars and all of that stuff. The fight is a joke but my biggest problem is that they're going to make people pay for it. If you don't have big enough stars then hold off on the PPV but don't throw Ortiz vs. Rampage as your main event for a PPV in 2013. People aren't getting this fight for free instead you actually have to pay for this fight.

Sure it'll get Bellator a bunch of attention and they need all of it. I seriously doubt this will reach Chuck Liddell numbers though. It'll draw decent numbers but I find it funny that this is something Bellator is asking it's fans to pay for on PPV.
You said it yourself right there. I'm sure that's all that Bellator is hoping for when they decided to make this fight.

And I never said this will reach Chuck Liddell numbers. My point was that even when Chuck Liddell lost 4 times, 3 of those brutal KO's, his drawing and star power didn't fall at all.

Similiar thing here. Rampage and Tito will still get attention whether they're past it or not. At the very least, people will know what the hell Bellator even is by the end of it.
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He's grown up since then and he'll make for some interesting fights. Who wouldn't want to see Daley/Lawler, Daley/Condit, Daley/Alves etc. etc.? His fight with Diaz was fucking insane. I say give him another shot.
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Yeah the UFC's 170 division is stacked at the moment, Daly can go fuck off for now. IMO he burned his bridge by attacking a fighter after the bell, if he is brought back at some point that's fine, but he doesn't deserve to come back.

Maia/Shields is targeted for sometime this fall. Maia has been looking stellar in his fights and I think this will be an easy victory against a declining Shields.
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