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Join Date: Jun 2002
Re: MMA Discussion Thread
Sorry, I'm going to have to chime in on this Pride/UFC discussion. Pride was around when I started watching in early 2004 and I have to say, their talent at the time owned the UFC's.
The UFC made a deal with Pride, for Dana's golden boy Chuck Liddell to join the Pride Grand Prix. All UFC fans thought it would be Wanderlei/Liddell in the final but Rampage smashed Chuck and knocked him out of the tournament. Rampage ended up eating classic Wand knees in the final and losing for the second time to him.
You really think fucking Tim Sylvia or Andrei Arlovski, who at the time were the poster boys to the UFC HW division would have come over to Pride and beat Fedor? Sylvia was subbed by Big Nog (Pride fighter) when Nog came to the UFC as well, and they both eventually fought Fedor, and both were finished in the first round. And I'm not a big fan of Fedor either, but facts are facts.
Cro Cop lost his step when he came to the UFC but how is Mark Hunt (K1 and Pride fighter) doing in the UFC again? He was beat by JDS, but JDS wasn't around (in the UFC) when Pride was around anyway and he's the second best HW in the world right now and Hunt held his own in that fight.
To say Pride was a gimmick organization with loads of overrated fighters who have been exposed is a complete joke. Exposed by what exactly, UFC fighters? No. The only thing that exposed them is constant injuries and age. UFC had good talent back then but Pride had better.
Last edited by TCE; 07-18-2013 at 11:09 PM.