Amazing new and fresh MMA thread.
Walls loves Faber or something like that.
MMA needs more roundhouses.
Walls loves Faber or something like that.
MMA needs more roundhouses.
Disagree. Literally until that hook he didn't land much at all standing and striking with Silva.Don't care what anyone says, Weidman won last night with skill. Not because he got lucky or not because Anderson threw away the fight. Weidman did very well last night even before the KO. First round was his, and he was holding his own in the standup. All Anderson threw the second round was three leg kicks, while Chris threw some good shots at Anderson's face AND was controlling the centre of the Octagon as well was controlling part of the pace of the fight.
They all tried to. They were all too slow, not enough reach and look at the end of that fight, Silva had very little footwork which is unusual for him. The ducking and weaving vs Franklin aside, there is very few instances where he doesn't move his feet much when slipping punches. He got caught but a good punch, but he had drawn Weidman into fighting how he wanted him to. Just didn't work out like it usually does.Anderson was trying to do what he did to Bonnar and all of his other opponents. He was trying to get in Weidman's head and break him mentally. But Weidman held his ground and didn't break. If Anderson did what he did last night to any other opponent, they would've gotten careless, thrown a stupid strike and get countered, but Weidman held his composure and continued to land/throw solid strikes. Fact of the matter is, Maia or Leites or Griffin or Bonnar all could've done what Weidman did tonight when Anderson held his hands down against them also. But they all got discouraged and mentally broken and in some cases careless and let Silva counter KO them.
Not to be pedantic but a 1-2 combo is a left jab, right cross :side: No one is denying that it was a good combination to finish him off, just pointing out the obvious in that Silva didn't need to clown him like that. There is a difference between slipping punches, dodging & using footwork to just straight up mocking. Silva was trying to mock Weidman and got his clock cleaned for it.Weidman also said he trained specifically for Anderson Silva's style, and his clowning is a part of it. He didn't break mentally like most people, and took advantage of Silva's hands being down, something no one else could do. Most of all though, Silva uses his head movement and rolls with the punches to nullify any strikes coming towards him.
ALL of Anderson's opponents always used a 1-2 combo while they punched Anderson when he had his hands down. That is, left jab, right hook or vice versa. That allowed Anderson to roll with punches easily because he would just move his face the same way of the punches every time because it was always a predictable combo from everyone. Also, it's easier to move your head right, then left or vice versa. You could even see it right there in the GIF. First two punches, Anderson rolls with the punches taking little to no damage from Chris's strikes. Those last two are really what catch him off guard though. It's like boxing. Often times, boxers double or triple up strikes from the same hand, and it makes rolling with the punches impossible. That's exactly what Weidman did. He doubled up his right hand jab/strike which caught Silva off guard, and then ploughed him with a left hand that Silva usually never gets from his opponents. Like I said, usually every one of Silva's opponents use the 1-2 combo. Chris was smart about it and doubled up the punches, which caught Silva off guard, and it allowed him to land the left hook which Silva never got.
Silva pretended to toy with Weidman to send him the message that "Your strikes don't hurt me", when in actuality, they did. Weidman says, "Fuck you", kept his composure, and KO'd him using skill.
There were some very solid strikes that Weidman landed that went unnoticed because everyone was too busy thinking about Anderson Silva and his taunting. I can't find the gifs right now, but I'll provide the times. With 1:48 left on the clock, he landed 2 solid shots. With 1:17 left he landed a big right hook. Lands a couple jabs after that. And then lands two shots before the round ends. Also, the entire round, Weidman blocked the majority of the shots. Silva tried for a jumping knee, a head kick, and a right flickr jab all of which get dodged by Anderson.Disagree. Literally until that hook he didn't land much at all standing and striking with Silva.
They all could've gotten it too if they used the strategy that Weidman used. Weidman isn't the best or the fastest or the most accurate striker, but he got the job done because of right technique and strategy.They all tried to. They were all too slow, not enough reach and look at the end of that fight, Silva had very little footwork which is unusual for him. The ducking and weaving vs Franklin aside, there is very few instances where he doesn't move his feet much when slipping punches. He got caught but a good punch, but he had drawn Weidman into fighting how he wanted him to. Just didn't work out like it usually does.
I'm a lefty, so forgive me plz 8*DNot to be pedantic but a 1-2 combo is a left jab, right cross :side: No one is denying that it was a good combination to finish him off, just pointing out the obvious in that Silva didn't need to clown him like that. There is a difference between slipping punches, dodging & using footwork to just straight up mocking. Silva was trying to mock Weidman and got his clock cleaned for it.
he landed one left when anderson was on the cage waving him in. Around the 1:17 mark he landed 1 right cross. Then Silva landed a leg kick, clean jab followed by Weidman missing every shot. Anderson jabbed him a few more times after that, leg kicked him twice, then had a head kick blocked. Literally for the 75 secs the only thing Weidman landed was a glancing jab. the last 2 mins of that fight Anderson landed more shots, and cleaner shots. Unless you want to be a mong like Cecil Peoples and not consider leg kicks as offense.There were some very solid strikes that Weidman landed that went unnoticed because everyone was too busy thinking about Anderson Silva and his taunting. I can't find the gifs right now, but I'll provide the times. With 1:48 left on the clock, he landed 2 solid shots. With 1:17 left he landed a big right hook. Lands a couple jabs after that. And then lands two shots before the round ends. Also, the entire round, Weidman blocked the majority of the shots. Silva tried for a jumping knee, a head kick, and a right flickr jab all of which get dodged by Anderson.
Start of round 2, lands a left hook. Another straight right. You could see right here and then Silva REALLY starts talking to Weidman and starts taunting him to REALLY try to get in Weidman's head to no avail. Weidman tries a head kick which misses. And then afterwards, the infamous combo that ended Anderson. Throughout the entire round, Anderson only landed on leg kick. He tried with the front kick ala Vitor but Weidman dodges that.
Difference between clowing and dropping your hands and rolling with punches. How many fights have you seen with Anderson where he's stood pretty still/had minimal footwork when in striking range with someone. Aside from the Franklin fight, there isn't many instances. I'm not taking anything away from Weidman, but it was a big error by Silva that allowed that finish to go down.Those saying Anderson didn't try, threw the fight, didn't take Weidman seriously and so on would be best served to stop watching. Point blank, that 'clowning' is strategy and has led guys like Forrest Griffin to mentally check out of the fight within seconds. Mind fuckery has always been a big part of Anderson's game with the difference here being Weidman never wilted like many would. He baited Anderson into moving back, doubled up on his right hand while Anderson's backfoot was nowhere near position, and he leaned to his right square into a left hook. That setup followed by the left hook was masterful.