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Old 08-05-2013, 04:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default "B" Teams being added to the English league system.

http://www.footballfancast.com/footb...come-a-reality
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Last week, the Football Association handed over more power to the Premier League after the government ordered a re-shape of the organisation. This was another significant battle won by the Premier League after the Elite Players Performance Programme (EPPP) was passed by the football leagues, with the Premier League on such a power drive, itís very likely that weíll see B teams within the next five years.

The idea, the Premier League claim, will benefit the national team, which has mainly struggled since International football began. In reality, what the Premier League and itís coaches have done is look at Spain and thought, well they keep winning, so why donít we copy what they are doing?

The B team idea would only benefit the top teams in the Premier League, the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Manchester City and Manchester United; it would as former Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez said during his time on Merseyside ďbridge the gap between the youngsters and the first teamĒ.

These teams arenít interested in helping England out, none of them have English owners and the majority of their players arenít English, what the likes of Chelsea want to do is be able to play the likes of Josh McEachran, Ryan Bertrand and Gael Kakuta in the Championship, but be able to play them for the first team should injuries occur.

Former Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas made that clear enough when he said: ďBut, here at Chelsea, we do produce talent. Players are coming through. Itís still a massive jump, again [to come]. Itís a waiting process but there is quality in this academy. Will it be too big a gap to come straight into the first team? Maybe, yes. But could they do that if they were playing at Championship level with a team representing Chelsea? Perhaps, yes.Ē

As a fan of said club, the idea appeals to me because it benefits my club, but for fans of teams like AFC Wimbledon, Derby County and Hartlepool, the idea to have B teams would be disastrous.

Sadly for fans of those teams, the days of English ĎBí teams isnít far off, recently the Premier League bullied lower league clubs into signing the EPPP deal, which meant that clubs could sign any youngster no matter where he lived, which 10-year-old wonder kid is going to want to sign for Bury over Manchester City?

Even more recently the FA handed over power to the Premier League, meaning that the FA board could only veto certain rule changes going through, but considering how much the FA have allowed the Premier-League to have in recent times, why wouldnít they be able to push through this deal for B teams?

The lower league teams arenít run likes the businesses in the Premier League, they have the community at heart and many are run by volunteers who just love their football club, B teams would mean the death of most of these clubs, but what does the Premier League care?

I would give it a maximum of five years before B teams are rolled out across the football league, and although it may bring the Premier League big boys closer to Barcelona and Real Madrid, it may also mean an end of Doris the tea-lady and surely she is more important to English football?

B Teams good or bad?

Personally i have mixed views on B teams being added because it has worked in Spain. Germany have B teams and Portugal but they don't have a league structure as strong as us and it could end up hurting the smaller teams .
I don't know if it would work in England unless a deal was done with the Football League and the Premier League which involves adding a FL3 witch has some of the bigger prem teams (13) to starts with a mixed of promoted Conference first team (4 teams usually 2)and some FL B teams (7) that wont to field a B team. If that works add two more to Conference and go on from there till all the teams wanting to field a B team has one.

Overall i'm still sitting on the fence.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm all for it. If the smaller teams can't even compete with the reserves of the bigger teams then they don't deserve to exist.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: "B" Teams being added to the English league system.

what a horrible elitist attitude

why in any way would english football want to become more like the mess that is spanish football? i like the idea of b teams, but not at the expense of other teams who have already earned their way up the footballing pyramid.
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Default Re: "B" Teams being added to the English league system.

Doesn't the Prem already use B Teams in the Premier league? Take Manchester City as an example.
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I both like & dislike the idea. It doesn't work in England though. Their rock bottom is under two decades away from the English Prem & Championship. If you throw the teams in like the Jong teams in the Jupiler League in Holland, at the Conference area in England, it will cause a lot of problems. A lot.

In theory, it works. In theory, it's perfect. But how do you adapt it? How do you adapt it without screwing around clubs low down in the tier?
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Default Re: "B" Teams being added to the English league system.

Would massively suck for the Football League teams. The loan system works for giving youth players experience if it's used correctly. With a B Team you just have the same group of young players playing in a different league and not with experienced pros and it just helps the big money clubs monopolise the football league.
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what a horrible elitist attitude

why in any way would english football want to become more like the mess that is spanish football? i like the idea of b teams, but not at the expense of other teams who have already earned their way up the footballing pyramid.
Er...because Spanish football is the best in the world, they produce the best club sides, best national team and best players in world football. Their only competitor is German football, which also operates a system with B teams.

It's true there'd be some difficulties in implementing it, I think the best solution is for clubs to be allowed to purchase controlling stakes in other football clubs, for example, Manchester United could buy Bury FC, liquidate it, retain their Football League Golden Share and replace them with Manchester United B. That way it saves Manchester United B from having to progress through the League and no team has had their position taken from them, they give it up of their own free will. I believe Rangers were trying to do a similar thing last summer so they could move wholesale into the Football League but it never came to pass.
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Keep in mind German B teams do not field youth players but rather fringes who failed to make the transition.
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Er...because Spanish football is the best in the world, they produce the best club sides, best national team and best players in world football. Their only competitor is German football, which also operates a system with B teams.

It's true there'd be some difficulties in implementing it, I think the best solution is for clubs to be allowed to purchase controlling stakes in other football clubs, for example, Manchester United could buy Bury FC, liquidate it, retain their Football League Golden Share and replace them with Manchester United B. That way it saves Manchester United B from having to progress through the League and no team has had their position taken from them, they give it up of their own free will. I believe Rangers were trying to do a similar thing last summer so they could move wholesale into the Football League but it never came to pass.
no. barcelona and madrid football is the best in the world. most of the other clubs are in financial freefall. b teams have been around in spain for ages. forcing out proud clubs for premier league reserves teams is just plain disrespectful. why should some club just fold to become another clubs reserves team? people whinge about taking football away from the fans, but seem to have no problem with it if it isn't the club they support.
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Er...because Spanish football is the best in the world, they produce the best club sides, best national team and best players in world football. Their only competitor is German football, which also operates a system with B teams.

It's true there'd be some difficulties in implementing it, I think the best solution is for clubs to be allowed to purchase controlling stakes in other football clubs, for example, Manchester United could buy Bury FC, liquidate it, retain their Football League Golden Share and replace them with Manchester United B. That way it saves Manchester United B from having to progress through the League and no team has had their position taken from them, they give it up of their own free will. I believe Rangers were trying to do a similar thing last summer so they could move wholesale into the Football League but it never came to pass.
Yeah like Kiz said it's not really spanish football that help produce brilliant talent but Madrid and Barca. Most of the other teams in the league are either crippled with debt or just simply does have the resources to compete with the top teams.

I don't see something like this working within England and your idea of liquidated football league clubs to make way for say A Man U B team is a pretty awful idea. It doesn't really help english football as a whole and only benefits 1 club in the long run. The loan system is
much better financially and in practice
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