Post #3 - No Kobe top 10
Post #17 - No Kobe top 10
Who's reading comprehension sucks? Fool.
Kobe is not higher than Shaq. Shaq carrying Kobe to 3 finals and Shaq winning the MVP every single time makes Kobe his bitch, end of story. Kobe over Bird is funny. Kobe over Wilt is fucking hilarious.
You're kidding right? You're starting to feel like a huge troll man. Shaq NEVER made an All Nba Defensive First Team. Kobe made it NINE times. His defense has been amazing until recent years and even then, when he wants to, he can shut down the other teams best player meanwhile still putting up 30 5 and 5..
Also you talked about this competition Shaq had at the C position. WHO? Yao Ming? Ben Wallace?.
Also Shaq in the 2006 NBA Finals.
Game 1: 17 pts and 7 rebs (1-9 from the free throw line).
Game 2: 5 pts and 6 rebs.
Game 3: 16 pts and 11 rebs (7 turnovers FOR A CENTER).
Game 4: 17 pts and 13 rebs (best game).
Game 5: 18 pts and 12 rebs.
Game 6: 9 pts and 12 rebs.
For a total of: 13.6 ppg and 10 rpg (Thats VERY far from dominant. Like I said he was AVERAGE on this team.).
As far as your double and triple teaming goes to take the ball out of his hands have you ever watched Kobe play? He is ALWAYS double and tripled teamed.
"However, don't confuse Bryant's domination of the ball with Jackson's endorsement of the plan. In the same book, Jackson tells of his annoyance at Bryant's ball-hogging in crunch time. In one instance, he describes drawing up a play with multiple options, in crunch time of a 2004 playoff series against Houston. Bryant destroyed all the options; instead of setting a baseline screen for Shaquille O'Neal he ran straight to the ball. "With the twenty-four-second clock winding down," writes Jackson, "Kobe forced a long jumper, a horrible shot in the game's most critical possession. The ball did not reach the rim..."
Phil Jackson had munch worse words for Shaq than he did for Kobe. It wouldn't be Christmas without a Shaq-Kobe feud, and now it seems Phil Jackson wants in on the tradition.
Jackson, who once upon a time seemed to favor his star center over his star shooting guard, on Sunday called out O'Neal, saying he was "the only person I've ever had that hasn't been a worker."
Shaq, who is rarely at a loss for words, was asked about Jackson's comments on Monday following Miami's 101-85 win over O'Neal's former team.
"How can Benedict Arnold be reliable in what he says?" the Big Aristotle was quoted as saying in Tuesday's edition of The Los Angeles Times. O'Neal declined to elaborate on his statement and, since he was in street clothes for the game, was not required to give a formal post-game interview.
O'Neal and Bryant had been feuding since O'Neal's trade to Miami following the 2003-04 season. But last year the two superstars stated publicly that they had reconciled their differences.
Then came Jackson's comments on Sunday.
"He's the one guy that didn't really like to work," said the coach who boasts nine NBA championship rings. "I know Pat [Riley] got him working here in Miami. We had a hard time getting him to work. All the other players -- Michael [Jordan], Scottie [Pippen], Dennis Rodman, all those guys that we had, Horace Grant, they're all hard-working practice and personal work players."
Of course, O'Neal was not the only player Jackson prodded. Speaking about Dwyane Wade, Shaq's new partner in crime and last year's NBA Finals MVP, Jackson said, "He travels on that spin move. He picks up that pivot foot ... everybody knows it. Dwyane Wade can cover so much ground when he makes that move. As you know, he can go 20 feet with that spin move and get to the basket."
While Jackson's comments are sure to refuel a media frenzy that was threatening to die down, it did little to help his team, which has lost three of five.
Fucking MIKE BIBBY
is ahead of Kobe Bryant. Kobe's about as clutch as asking a a guy on a job interview who the picture of the cunt is on his desk is at landing you a job. He scores a lot of points. He won two
NBA Championships as the best player on his team. Those early Laker titles - "Big Shot Bob" AKA Robert Horry was the one saving the Lakers, not fucking Kobe. Game 4 - Western conference finals looming, about to go down 3-1 to Sacramento - Big Shot Bob had to bail Kobe's ass out after he missed a layup. A layup.
Kobe is a good
player, and he is not top 10 of all time. I could stop here, but while I'm using you as my personal pinata, let's look at another reference, since you claim I provided no evidence.
A Statistical Analysis Of Clutch NBA Shooters Since 2000
Some key phrases:
"Of the 15 players listed, Kobe Bryant's shooting percentage (40%) was below average."
"Kobe's percentage (41%) was slightly below average and LeBron had the best percentage (47%)."
LeBron ranked ahead of Kobe in 7 of the 8
samples, including all three playoff samples."
Are these selective pulls from the article? Yeap, but feel free to read the article in it's entirety.
I basically just stood on your chest and ripped large chunks of flesh out of your body while you flailed around making shrill like shrikes. Next time you try to get all huffy and be a bigshot up here, you should probably make sure it isn't against someone who is light years ahead of you and can completely bury you at their leisure. Have fun dragging your carcass back home, Cletus.
Please stop talking basketball you might be biggest moron I have ever seen on any forum. That or amazing troll. I posted numbers and stats and you don't like it. Shaq and Kobe were 1A/1b other than 2000 series were Shaq was far away the man of his team. Here are the numbers. How was Shaq was so munch better than Kobe again?
001 NBA Playoffs
Shaq - 30.4 ppg, 15.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 55.5 FG%, 56.4 TS%
Kobe - 29.4 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 46.9 FG%, 55.5 TS%
2002 NBA Playoffs
Shaq - 28.5 ppg, 12.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 52.9 FG%, 56.9 TS%
Kobe - 26.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg, 43.4 FG%, 51.1 TS%
Kobe led the lakers in PPG and APG through through entire Western Conference Playoffs in 2001 and 2002
2001 NBA Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%
2002 NBA Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%
Kobe led the Lakers in PPG and APG in 2/4 series in 2001 and 2/4 series in 2002. A total of 4/8 series both years combined.
2001 Western Conf Semifnals
2001 Western Conf Finals
2002 Western Conf 1st Round
2002 Western Conf Semifinals
Kobe led the Lakers in Field Goals Made in the 2nd Half and 4th Quarters of the 2002 NBA Playoffs
2002 NBA Playoffs - 2nd Half+OT
Bryant - 97/214 FG, 17/37 3PT, 45.3 FG%, 49.3 eFG%, 45.9 3PT% in 19 games
O'Neal - 85/186 FG, 0/0 3PT, 45.7 FG%, 45.7 eFG%, 0.0 3PT% in 19 games
2002 NBA Playoffs - 4th Quarter+OT
Bryant - 52/106 FG, 12/24 3PT, 49.1 FG%, 54.7 eFG%, 50.0 3PT% in 19 games
O'Neal - 32/85 FG, 0/0 3PT, 37.6 FG%, 37.6 eFG%, 0.0 3PT% in 18 games
Please come back with some stats to atleast base your opinion. All that is coming out of your mouth is pure crap. Kobe top 10 and munch higher deal with it. It's very clear to me you know little to none of knowledge for the game of basketball. It's okay. Science will save you.
Oh and to that post of yours makes me. Are you 12 years old?