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NFL Week 10: BEAR DOWN (and FOLES)

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#1 ·
Ravens win and are at the top of the mountain.

Who's gonna knock em down?
 
#439 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

I expect this shit from IMPULSE or Magic, but MM? Aid? Verbally shanking special needs kids defending a team they don't even pull for? That's fucked up, brah.

In other news, Ellerbe and not Kruger looks to be top priority for Baltimore, which is a good move. Ellerbe is more versatile, I'd like to keep both but they picked the right one:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9030980/dannell-ellerbe-not-paul-kruger-priority-baltimore-ravens
 
#442 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

I expect this shit from IMPULSE or Magic, but MM? Aid? Verbally shanking special needs kids defending a team they don't even pull for? That's fucked up, brah.
:lmao

Shit happens man.

I wonder what team are getting the Bennett's, Martellus and Michael, the TE and DE. Both are FAs and both have had an interest in playing together. Michael Bennett is a very underrated DE and I think he is actually the best DE available. Martellus is an ok TE that could create space when he wants to. Tampa, Philly, and Atlanta seem like possible landing spots for them.
 
#441 ·
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Figured we'd release Hall.. Skins desperately need a corner.

Wouldn't mind signing Woodson for a season.
I thought they would try to move Hall to safety?
 
#444 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

On a scale of 1 to Brett Favre, he's 95% retired in his mind. He'll be back in July is my guess.
 
#448 ·
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Tony coming back would help Atlanta. If they get Steven Jackson, a DE like Bennett or Avril, a solid CB either in the draft or FA, plus Tony, then Atlanta would look like a serious contender. Their weakness last year was pass rush and running the ball. Add Bennett and Jackson and they essentially fill their two biggest needs.

Actually, fuck that, Tony should come to Chicago and become Jay Cutler's very best friend with Brandon Marshall.
 
#450 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

Chiefs sign ex-Falcons corner Dunta Robinson. Very good pickup for KC. He's not the best CB, but he was a solid number 2.
 
#452 ·
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lol flacco being elite. elite qb's can pretty much win a game on their own. guys like Brady and Rodgers were getting their teams ot the playoffs for years with mediocre or bad running games. Don't think flacco does that without rice.
 
#453 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

Joe Flacco - Number of Pro Bowl selections: 0

Result: Highest paid NFL Quarterback.

:taker

(I know he has had to compete with Peyton and Tom, but they each missed a season. He should of made at least ONE by now. Guy lost out to Matt Schaub of all people.....lol)
 
#454 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

Who would everyone take for their team out of Jennings, Wallace or Welker?

Being a Pats fan I'd prefer we keep Welker but I'm not too bothered if he decides to walk. Wallace would be a good deep threat for us so I'll pick him, but I think he's asking for a little too much money.
 
#455 ·
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Who would everyone take for their team out of Jennings, Wallace or Welker?

Being a Pats fan I'd prefer we keep Welker but I'm not too bothered if he decides to walk. Wallace would be a good deep threat for us so I'll pick him, but I think he's asking for a little too much money.
Oh absolutely Welker. Some Patriots fans point to a few key drops in the past couple years, but some were not the greatest throws. Funny how Welker assumed all of the blame while Brady got off scott free. I think that is why Welker sold his house and wants out, and I can't blame him.

Jennings would be 2nd, if he's healthy.
 
#457 ·
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I'd take Wallace for Chicago. The Bears could really use a deep threat with Knox retiring and Hester being a terrible receiver. Jeffery can work the middle or the other sideline and same with Marshall. In fact, I think Marshall may be most effective in the slot going up the middle. So a speed guy like Wallace would be great with Cutler's rocket arm. Of course, this whole scenario only works if Wallace wants number two receiver money, which he definitely does not.

if I were thinking for Atlanta, I'd want a guy like Wes Welker. A guy to run up the middle while teams would have to cover White, Gonzalez, and JULIO would be a huge nightmare matchup. The best receiving duo would be the best receiver group altogether with Welker involved. Once again, money is the issue, and Wes doesn't want to be the third option. Plus Atlanta would rather have Steven Jackson.

And to finish the trifecta, if I were Detroit, I'd want Greg Jennings of the group. Calvin is amazing. There is nothing Megatron can't do. So when he is triple covered, Stafford needs another guy. Michigan's own, jack of all trades Greg Jennings fits here. Jennings can run most routes and get open. With a guy like Megatron opposite him, Jennings would never get doubled. Jennings can win most one on one battles. Stafford has some wild throws that can get a little Favreish, so who better than a guy that played with Favre years ago. With two guys that can do most on the field, Detroit can then abuse the play action and finally get a running game going. And unlike the other two, Jennings to Detroit can be monetarily beneficial for both teams with the cheap addition of Reggie Bush or Rashad Mendenhall.
 
#458 ·
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if I were thinking for Atlanta, I'd want a guy like Wes Welker. A guy to run up the middle while teams would have to cover White, Gonzalez, and JULIO would be a huge nightmare matchup. The best receiving duo would be the best receiver group altogether with Welker involved. Once again, money is the issue, and Wes doesn't want to be the third option. Plus Atlanta would rather have Steven Jackson.
Good post. I've quoted the Atlanta idea because holy shit would they be dangerous if they got Welker. Him, Jones, White and Gonzalez? Holy fuck on a stick Ryan would surely put up monster numbers with that receiving core and Atlanta would do at least as well as they did this season. They need a little more pass rush though.
 
#459 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

Jennings and Burleson would be a solid 2-3 punch for Detroit.

I'd love Wallace in Minnesota, but only if we also kept Percy, I'm not an either or kind of guy. Stretch the field for Rudolph and Peterson to take advantage of all of that space. Just Wallace and I'm afraid of another Berrian situation. We loaded up on receivers last draft, and can do it again this draft.

If Wallace signs with GB, shit just got real. If he signs with DA BEARS, the game is still about LOLCUTLER needing to make the throws and avoid the picks.
 
#460 ·
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@ Aid - Since you're a Bears fan, what are you expecting for the coming season? Obviously it's early and before FA and the draft, but I only ask because it seems that the last two seasons the Bears have been rolling along nicely before shooting themselves in the foot. Last season they were 7-1 at one point weren't they? Obviously the season before was more down to Cutler getting injured than anything else, but why do they keep falling away after strong starts? Would you put the blame on anyone in particular?
 
#461 ·
re: NFL Offseason: DRAFT TODAY (and all through the weekend)

Injuries are the biggest blame. This past season, Forte, Cutler, Tim Jennings, Earl Bennett, Urlacher, Peppers, Shea McClellin, Alshon Jeffery, and even Robbie Gould among others got hurt. Most all around the same time during that stretch with the Texans, Niners, Vikings, Seahawks, and Vikings again. There was a point in the season where 9 starters were out and hurt with various injuries. The lack of depth to replace injuries of the better linemen that got hurt on the already atrocious O-line and no big linebacker replacements meant that more sacks were given up and defense started to lack.

After that, I would say the TE and line were the biggest fault along with the Offensive Coordinator, Mike Tice. Mike Tice was the former line coach. The offensive line the year before was one of the worst in the league. How he became OC is mind boggling. That's like a McDonald's manager being fired because the bathrooms are really dirty, then promoting the person who cleans the bathrooms to manager. Tice was basic at best. The TE's did absolutely nothing and the line couldn't block a fly. Changes to all of this, which will happen, is the biggest fix.

But two close seasons in a row, and Chicago would have been in the playoffs at 10-6 most years, I can see them making it back to that level.
 
#462 ·
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Yeah obviously the O-Line needs some serious work, I think if Cutler has better protection next season (and he cuts down on picks) then you guys make the playoffs. It's a strong division you're in though so it's always going to be tough.

That McDonalds comment made me laugh. (Y)
 
#464 ·
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Yeah. The NFC in general is really strong. Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, New York, Dallas, Washington, Atlanta, New Orleans, Carolina, and Tampa Bay all had at least 8 wins last season and St. Louis was 7-8-1 with a 4-1-1 record in the West. It's hard to imagine any of those teams actually being worse than they were before. In fact, St. Louis would have been a playoff team if it weren't for a couple missed FGs from their rookie kicker against San Francisco, Miami, and another game. He missed multiple kicks in the first two. Seattle and San Francisco already sound like they are improving this season, Minnesota will get better with an even healthier AP, Washington will get better with a more experienced RG3 and Morris, and New Orleans will definitely improve with Payton back. Even the teams that didn't get to .500 in the NFC, Philly, Detroit, Arizona, and St. Louis, St. Louis has two first round picks and can get a great WR in the draft, Detroit was a playoff team the year before that just needs some consistency, Arizona needs a QB (I think it will be Drew Stanton), and Philly just needed a change in mindset.

The NFC will be really fun to watch this year.
 
#466 ·
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Yeah. The NFC in general is really strong. Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, New York, Dallas, Washington, Atlanta, New Orleans, Carolina, and Tampa Bay all had at least 8 wins last season and St. Louis was 7-8-1 with a 4-1-1 record in the West. It's hard to imagine any of those teams actually being worse than they were before. In fact, St. Louis would have been a playoff team if it weren't for a couple missed FGs from their rookie kicker against San Francisco, Miami, and another game. He missed multiple kicks in the first two. Seattle and San Francisco already sound like they are improving this season, Minnesota will get better with an even healthier AP, Washington will get better with a more experienced RG3 and Morris, and New Orleans will definitely improve with Payton back. Even the teams that didn't get to .500 in the NFC, Philly, Detroit, Arizona, and St. Louis, St. Louis has two first round picks and can get a great WR in the draft, Detroit was a playoff team the year before that just needs some consistency, Arizona needs a QB (I think it will be Drew Stanton), and Philly just needed a change in mindset.

The NFC will be really fun to watch this year.
Agreed. The NFC is simply a lot more competitive at the moment. When predicting the playoff spots it's pretty simply to guess who's going to get in from the AFC, while the NFC is much more wide open. Though, a whole lot changes every year and if some poor AFC teams pick up some good players in the draft they could improve dramatically.
 
#467 ·
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Guys, James Harrison has been cut. Woah.

Also...

Hey Anquan, we know you bailed out Flacco with some great catches, and often you were the only WR open, but fuck you, take a pay cut or you're released - Baltimore Ravens
 
#469 ·
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Yeah. Boldin should not take a pay cut. Boldin should leave and get the money he deserves. He was every bit the MVP this post season.

Too bad Football isn't around for another 6 months. I guess for now, with the biggest part of the offseason starting this week, I'll put together my wants for Chicago.

For Chicago this offseason I want:

FA:
Jermon Bushrod LT Saints. Chicago now has the Saints Line Coach, so familiarity helps.
Brian Urlacher MLB Chicago. No better replacement right now. Cheap and old will have to do for one more year.
Lance Louis RG Chicago. Best of the rotten group in Chicago, but still, can't replace all 5 on the line in one year.
Rex Grossman QB Washington or any cheap backup QB. Grossman just because he did get them to the Super Bowl after all. Maybe even Tim Tebow as I mentioned earlier in the week. At least Tebow would get Chicago on SportsCenter.
Devin Aromashodu WR Minnesota. Need a replacement for the retired Knox. Aromashodu played for Chicago a couple years ago and had some decent chemistry with Jay Cutler, but got on coaches bad sides for route running issues. New coaches could give him a chance. Cheap and can be a downfield threat at 5th string.

Draft:
Zach Ertz, TE Stanford 1st Round. Great ball skills, good receiver, fast, and will get to be a good blocker.
Barrett Jones, C Alabama 2nd Round. Doesn't take shit from prima donna QBs. He's perfect.
Bacarri Rambo, S Georgia 4th Round. This guy can tackle at a good value. If available, good pick, otherwise, it's hard to find gems this late.

They already signed Melton to a Franchise Tag, so I'm happy here. With all of this together, Chicago's defense mostly holds over from last year, but the line is fixed greatly with a new Center, a new LT, and Roberto Garza reverting back to his natural guard position, Louis filling his spot, and Webb and Carimi holding the other tackle spot and hopefully making each other better with competition.
 
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