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Old 02-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Their defense makes them better and it's not really close. Your secondary is awful and with Welker leaving your wide receivers are no longer better nor are they even close to being great as I wouldn't really call Lloyd great. Perhaps if they do get Woodson or Reed my opinion would change, but as of now I don't really see why I would take the Pats over the Broncos when the Broncos had a better year last year even though the Pats made it farther. I know that sounds stupid but they both played and lost to the same team, the only difference was how the game went. While Broncos basically shot themselves in the foot over and over(not to discredit the Ravens, but the Broncos cost themselves the game on both offense and defense) while the Pats were just outplayed after the first half.

that being said I could easily be wrong and the Pats could go much farther and play much better if they get a full season of a healthy Gronk/Hernandez.
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The Pats secondary was actually playing well in the second half of last season once they got Talib. If he comes back and we sign Reed or Woodson, I see no reason as to why our defense can't return to elite. We already have a great front 7 with a great run defense.

There's still no guarantee that Welker's leaving. He could still stay, just depends on if he's willing to take less to continue to playing in New England.

The Broncos were outplayed as well. The only reason why they didn't get blown out is because of Holliday's amazing game on special teams. The Broncos offense played just as bad as the Patriots did and their defense played just as bad as the Patriots did.
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Why should the Broncos be favorites?

What makes them better than the Patriots? I'm not even trying to be a homer but I'm failing to see what separates them.

- They both have elite, aging QB's.
- The Patriots have a better running game with young improving players like Ridley and Vereen.
- The Patriots have better receivers/tight ends.
- The Patriots have a better O-Line.
- The Patriots have a better front 7. Well it's close but I feel the Patriots front 7 is better.
- While the Patriots secondary wasn't that good last year, I expect them to improve with the signing of a guy like Ed Reed or Woodson, and potentially having Talib back for a full year. But it's not like the Broncos secondary is spectacular, either.
Reed ain't going to New England since he's gonna go to Denver. Makes sense for Denver our biggest need is a fucking safety.

Plus you guys don't have better receivers, Thomas is young and a beast plus we got Decker who had an amazing season. LLOYD LOL

Denver has a pretty fucking good OLINE too with players like Clady. Plus our front seven is better and younger. Young guys like Von Miller & Derek Wolfe and veteran guys like williams and dumervil. Does new england even have a linebacker worth a damn? MAYO is your best player and he isn't even close to our best linebacker.
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The New England front 7 is better than the Broncos' front seven when it comes to rush offense, although I would say that the Broncos' does much better against the pass than the Pats' does.

You can't actually be serious when saying the Broncos' offense played as bad as the Pats' offense if you actually watched both of those games. Aside from the turnovers, the Broncos offense was fine when it came to scoring and moving the ball. The Pats offense had troubling moving the ball in the second half and became completely one dimensional while not scoring at all.
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Broncos and Pats will be favourites to be the top 2 seeds, and I expect that to happen again. Ravens and Steelers will fight it out for the AFC North and the Texans will probably win their average division. I enjoyed the Colts' run last season but their schedule is understandably harder and I think they'll finish around 8-8.

The AFC is usually a lot easier to predict, but obviously every year there are teams that punch above their weight and teams that falter.

EDIT: Pats and Broncos were both very even last season, it's hard to choose between the two as to who's 'better'. It's a silly argument to have now, since last season is finished and the draft and free agency is still to come and injuries always play a big part in a season. Both teams lost to the Ravens last year - it doesn't matter 'how' they lost they did and that's that.

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I'd definitely rather have Thomas and Decker over what the Patriots have. NE and Denver are pretty close though. Both had secondary breakdowns.
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If you guys could hybrid New England and Denver's offenses, who would you choose?

But don't let this go into a Manning/Brady debate. I'm just talking O-Line and receivers/TEs.
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The Patriots offense is all-around better than Denver's.
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O-line is a toss up. I'd want NE running backs with Denver WRs and GRONK.
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RB: Ridley/Willis
TE: Gronk/Hernandez
WR: Thomas/Decker/Werlk
OLine: lolz, I'm pretty at bad at this. MANKINS THOUGH.

and yeah, it's pretty easy to select who as each team has their own strengths on offense.


that's an opinion notorious, Mcgahee was quite good before he got injured and was great last year.
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