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Yeah at least Ba is honest about his intentions, while yeah its nice to have players who generally care about the club at the end of the day it is a job to a lot of them nowadays and as long as they are doing their job to the best of their ability who cares if he's there just for the money



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I see what both Magsimus & Irish Jet are saying.

I agree that for all the talk about greed and players generally looking for the best deal regardless of their career growth, we have to accept it is a job and players depend on the income to provide for themselves and their family. Who amongst us would turn down a lucrative job offer on the spot purely out of pride? I'm not saying everyone in life would always choose money over job satisfaction, but there's no denying everyone would like to feel that their work will be rewarded with generous pay.

That being said, football plays such a great impact in a local community that its incredibly disheartening to see so many players profess their love and commitment to a club, only to run when a great offer comes in. Ba comes across as arrogant and conceited and is no doubt in poor company with this entourage of his, but does the blunt honesty make him a knob or better than someone who pledges to be better than the money-grabbers and then goes against his apparent beliefs when he finds an offer he can't refuse?

To see someone wearing your shirt and colours and know deep down he lacks the true passion and respect for everything the club stands for and has achieved historically must be infuriating and disheartening, so in that respect I can totally see why Magsimus loathes Ba. I wanted to string Rooney by his bollocks when I saw his antics in trying to secure an even more lavish contract with United, a club isn't something to be toyed with or manipulated: whether that's by an investor or a player.
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I see what both Magsimus & Irish Jet are saying.

I agree that for all the talk about greed and players generally looking for the best deal regardless of their career growth, we have to accept it is a job and players depend on the income to provide for themselves and their family. Who amongst us would turn down a lucrative job offer on the spot purely out of pride? I'm not saying everyone in life would always choose money over job satisfaction, but there's no denying everyone would like to feel that their work will be rewarded with generous pay.

That being said, football plays such a great impact in a local community that its incredibly disheartening to see so many players profess their love and commitment to a club, only to run when a great offer comes in. Ba comes across as arrogant and conceited and is no doubt in poor company with this entourage of his, but does the blunt honesty make him a knob or better than someone who pledges to be better than the money-grabbers and then goes against his apparent beliefs when he finds an offer he can't refuse?

To see someone wearing your shirt and colours and know deep down he lacks the true passion and respect for everything the club stands for and has achieved historically must be infuriating and disheartening, so in that respect I can totally see why Magsimus loathes Ba. I wanted to string Rooney by his bollocks when I saw his antics in trying to secure an even more lavish contract with United, a club isn't something to be toyed with or manipulated: whether that's by an investor or a player.
Too long, to make it simple, you can see it from the player perspective or the fans, for me both are ok

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I'd side closer to disliking the greed in the eyes of the players, especially because clubs as a whole should have more respect given to them instead of being strung along by a player longing for an inflated deal. I mean Ba only comes off supposedly better because he's honest about only wanting to play for the best deal, compared to someone who goes back on their word and tries to attack those who only go where their wallets will be fed best.

Still, can't say I particularly blame anyone for wanting more money for effectively the same job.
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I see what both Magsimus & Irish Jet are saying.

I agree that for all the talk about greed and players generally looking for the best deal regardless of their career growth, we have to accept it is a job and players depend on the income to provide for themselves and their family. Who amongst us would turn down a lucrative job offer on the spot purely out of pride? I'm not saying everyone in life would always choose money over job satisfaction, but there's no denying everyone would like to feel that their work will be rewarded with generous pay.

That being said, football plays such a great impact in a local community that its incredibly disheartening to see so many players profess their love and commitment to a club, only to run when a great offer comes in. Ba comes across as arrogant and conceited and is no doubt in poor company with this entourage of his, but does the blunt honesty make him a knob or better than someone who pledges to be better than the money-grabbers and then goes against his apparent beliefs when he finds an offer he can't refuse?

To see someone wearing your shirt and colours and know deep down he lacks the true passion and respect for everything the club stands for and has achieved historically must be infuriating and disheartening, so in that respect I can totally see why Magsimus loathes Ba. I wanted to string Rooney by his bollocks when I saw his antics in trying to secure an even more lavish contract with United, a club isn't something to be toyed with or manipulated: whether that's by an investor or a player.


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So, looks like Spurs are about to sign Lewis Holtby on a pre-contract deal allowing him to join for free in the summer. Has Daniel Levy written all over it. I definitely like what I see from the lad, has great potential.
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Juventus have taken a big step towards signing Fernando Llorente on a free transfer next summer.

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The Italian champions are to hold talks with the 27-year-old Spain striker, who has scored 115 goals in 317 appearances over nine seasons for the Basque club.

"Juventus informed Athletic that they will begin negotiations with the player to incorporate him into their squad," Bilbao said in a statement.
His contract expires on 30 June and he has rejected the offer of a new deal.
Both Liverpool and Arsenal have been linked with the forward.

Llorente scored in both legs of the Europa League last-16 tie against Manchester United and helped Bilbao reach the final of the competition with a goal in the second leg of the semi-final tie against Sporting Lisbon.
Llorente, who is no longer considered a first-choice striker with the La Liga club, was involved in a training ground disagreement with Bilbao coach Marcelo Bielsa in October.

He has also suffered from jeers from his own fans this season following his decision to leave the club.
The 6ft 4in striker was in Spain's squad for Euro 2012, but did not feature during the tournament as the Spaniards won the title.
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Spurs have signed left back Zeki Freyers from Standard. Another Levy deal. The guy was training with us all summer and then eventually went to Standard Leiege, we got out of giving Man Utd £6m compensation in the summer just to sign him now.
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