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Bud Selig 4 11.43%
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David Stern 9 25.71%
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:18 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Ok, let's assume there isn't evidence, even though there does seem to be. I don't even think twice about a conspiracy. It just screams overreach of power and incompetence, like most of his decisions have been. Unfortunately, this one had some serious bite to it with the suspension of Payton. Why hasn't he been re-instated?
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Stern has done a tremandous amount to help the league grow and it is incredibly foolish to say he hasn't. he made the NBA a players driven market which lead to the incredible Rise of Magic, Larry, and Jordan. Instead of focusing on making teams marketable he made the players marketable which is why the superstars hold so much power today because owners know that they are ultimately the ones that bring in the viewers and allow them to make a large sum of money. the only team in the NBA that is a team market is the Lakers and it is still constantly filled with superstars. Stern caused this and he did it on purpose and it is what allowed the league to become such a global sport.
I believe I gave him credit for taking the game global, helping it grow. That doesn't relieve him of justified blame on numerous other issues too. For example, you say that the 82 game schedule is wise for the business side of things? Ok but the NHL starts their season a month earlier, to avoid wear and tear (more physical sport too, but separate issue). The NBA could do this, and also just NOT schedule teams in such favorable and non favorable manners.

The Lakers being the only team market - that's being a good commish? Seems a bit favoring to one franchise, I disagree that he deserves props for that.

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23 and under rule is once again because of what is in the best interest of his league. he doesn't like that his players get injured while preparing for it so obviously he's going to recommend such a thing. Also it would be nice to see more competition in those games, but whatever, you guys can enjoy winning everyone in blowout fashion(except for the gold medal games which are usually close).
The gap has closed in recent years, and the Olympics are only every 4 years. Those people are citizens of their native country first, NBA players 2nd. Being able to represent one's country is an honor imo, and I also believe that it fuels other countries to beat us and get better as opposed to getting good enough to beat our college players or NBA rookies.

You can certainly make a case for Bettmanm but Stern seems more malicious in his actions than Stern and a bigger scumbag. I don't know, maybe you have dirt on Bettman I am unaware of. I follow all 4 sports, but hockey the least I guess if I had to pick.

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Well it's one thing to want better evidence and another to make up there is a conspiracy to keep a team from playing in its stadium for the Super Bowl.
They shouldn't pick cities with a team that looks like anything close to a Superbowl contender for that year or the next. Next year - Kansas City would be a fabulous place to hold the Superbowl. On the other hand, Houston would be a terrible pick. New Orleans has been bad for a while and hosted so many SB's that this hasn't been an issue until now.
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Ok, let's assume there isn't evidence, even though there does seem to be.
There is no evidence of a pay-to-injure program which is the reasoning that Goodell took such extreme actions in the first place and which Goodell still claims existed without any evidence.

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Unfortunately, this one had some serious bite to it with the suspension of Payton. Why hasn't he been re-instated?
Because the coaches don't have a union to fight for them like Vilma and the players had with the NFLPA.
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That could be partially the case but also Payton covered shit up. Did Tagliabue make any mention of Payton in his investigations? Serious question, since I don't know.

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They shouldn't pick cities with a team that looks like anything close to a Superbowl contender for that year or the next. Next year - Kansas City would be a fabulous place to hold the Superbowl. On the other hand, Houston would be a terrible pick. New Orleans has been bad for a while and hosted so many SB's that this hasn't been an issue until now.
They picked the fucking Meadowlands for 2014 when both the Giants and Jets were doing well. They don't actually care if a team plays on their home field.
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That could be partially the case but also Payton covered shit up. Did Tagliabue make any mention of Payton in his investigations? Serious question, since I don't know.
Here is the full report if you ever want to read it. About Payton:

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With regard to head coach Sean Payton, the NFL concluded that: (1) he was not a direct participant in the funding or administration of the Program but was aware of the allegations; and (2) he did not make any detailed inquiry or otherwise seek to learn the facts and failed to instruct his coaches to stop the Program.
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You're just being a bitter homer. I'd be pissed too if Goodell fucked my team over, but I wouldn't think there was conspiracy against them. Goodell simply made an overreaching power play. Nothing more. I'm not condoning it, I think the guy is scum.

Also, there was apparently a cover up. Cover ups always make things worse.


Let's talk shit about Selig or this Bettman fucktard. I can't watch NHL even if the season is on where I live. WTF is up with that? I mean I can get a game every now and then, and do get some playoffs, but nothing more than that. I was even going to try to get back into my STARS last season, but fuck, nothing on here ever.
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Here is the full report if you ever want to read it. About Payton:
Thanks. That quote was enough though. That thing is way too long and I simply don't care enough to read it.

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probably not worth it for you as you don't like hockey as much. unless of course they give a 50% cut this year(if they have a year) due to the lockout.
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I actually like hockey a lot. It's just since I moved to Austin from Dallas/Ft. Worth, well...they don't fucking play Stars games around here. I blame Bettman.
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I believe I gave him credit for taking the game global, helping it grow. That doesn't relieve him of justified blame on numerous other issues too. For example, you say that the 82 game schedule is wise for the business side of things? Ok but the NHL starts their season a month earlier, to avoid wear and tear (more physical sport too, but separate issue). The NBA could do this, and also just NOT schedule teams in such favorable and non favorable manners.

The Lakers being the only team market - that's being a good commish? Seems a bit favoring to one franchise, I disagree that he deserves props for that.



The gap has closed in recent years, and the Olympics are only every 4 years. Those people are citizens of their native country first, NBA players 2nd. Being able to represent one's country is an honor imo, and I also believe that it fuels other countries to beat us and get better as opposed to getting good enough to beat our college players or NBA rookies.

You can certainly make a case for Bettmanm but Stern seems more malicious in his actions than Stern and a bigger scumbag. I don't know, maybe you have dirt on Bettman I am unaware of. I follow all 4 sports, but hockey the least I guess if I had to pick.
I said the 82 game was a problem but your thing is hardly a solution as it may spread out the games but then it gives players less of a rest during the off season which the two final teams usually very much need.

Stern didn't try to market teams is what I meant, Lakers just happen to be one because of their long and successful history. He also markets rivalries, except he pushes them really really hard which make them come out bad.

Our countries also probably wouldn't be allowed to use their players either. And the teams are usually more competitive due to their better use of chemistry and team work. As fun as it is to watch the USA team, it is also a disgrace to the sport as rather than them playing as a team it's usually just them capitalizing on their elite talents.

Nah, Bettman is just a horrible commish all around. No dirt, he just fucking sucks. And Stern is a complte and utter scumbag, but at least he has advanced the sport in ways other commishes haven't, well at least the current commishes of today.
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