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Old 12-28-2012, 11:21 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Don't double post man gah.

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The Packers in 2007 were on his watch considering he assumed the head honcho role in 2006. You can't set a precedent of letting one team off scott free and giving the other team the Mussolini treatment.


Then why the extreme punishment in one case and not the other? The precedent had been set. He FLAT OUT LIED about evidence that he supposedly had. When he was ordered to show the court the thousands of pages of documents he claimed, HE SUBSEQUENTLY RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THE SITUATION.
Supposedly he had given out the warning to stop any all programs that resemble bounties. Not sure of the year this happened. Apparently everyone stopped, or went further underground, but not the Saints.

None of this actually matters because there isn't a fucking conspiracy to keep the Saints out of a home field Super Bowl. It wasn't going to happen anyway. They're not that good anymore even with Sean Payton. Even if it might have happened, no one actually cares.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Supposedly he had given out the warning to stop any all programs that resemble bounties. Not sure of the year this happened. Apparently everyone stopped, or went further underground, but not the Saints.
The NFL's big evidence was the audio tape recording of Gregg Williams in a defensive meeting prior to the Divisional Playoff game in San Francisco. In this tape, Williams talks about hitting players hard who previously had concussions, and hitting Alex Smith so much his head hurts.

"Kill the head and the body will die."

How is that any different from Bart Scott saying that he was going to put some "hot sauce" on Reggie Bush's knee after it was injured? Or, more recently, Rex Ryan's claim on the same player? What about Tommy Kelly's claim that the Raiders tried to "take out" Cam Newton?

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there's a difference in saying you will try to take out a player and paying a player to do so.
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You're just being a bitter homer. I'd be pissed too if Goodell fucked my team over, but I wouldn't think there was conspiracy against them. Goodell simply made an overreaching power play. Nothing more. I'm not condoning it, I think the guy is scum.

Also, there was apparently a cover up. Cover ups always make things worse.


Let's talk shit about Selig or this Bettman fucktard. I can't watch NHL even if the season is on where I live. WTF is up with that? I mean I can get a game every now and then, and do get some playoffs, but nothing more than that. I was even going to try to get back into my STARS last season, but fuck, nothing on here ever.
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Okay, after spending the last 20 minutes reading on Bill Veeck's escapades He did not get a height requirement in baseball, he forced the commissioner's office to review all contracts first.
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there's a difference in saying you will try to take out a player and paying a player to do so.
No payments were rendered for injuries.

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You're just being a bitter homer. I'd be pissed too if Goodell fucked my team over, but I wouldn't think there was conspiracy against them. Goodell simply made an overreaching power play. Nothing more. I'm not condoning it, I think the guy is scum.
No, I just want the evidence. If the thousands of documents of evidence are there as claimed, let's see them. Don't show what you've got and get the fuck out of dodge when times get tough. Stand your fucking ground like a man. There's nothing bitter about being suspicious of the activities of someone who handed down punishment that was not upheld by either the Courts nor an arbitrator.

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There was a denial of a "pay to injure" program that the league accused us of. There was no "pay to injure" program, or at least no evidence of one anyway.
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Well it's one thing to want better evidence and another to make up there is a conspiracy to keep a team from playing in its stadium for the Super Bowl.
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Well it's one thing to want better evidence and another to make up there is a conspiracy to keep a team from playing in its stadium for the Super Bowl.
If there is no evidence of the purported claims, can one not logically conclude that something was fishy about the whole ordeal in the first place?
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There is evidence that something was going down with the Saints. Unless something has come out that I haven't heard about.
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There is evidence that something was going down with the Saints. Unless something has come out that I haven't heard about.
The claims were that they had $10k bounties on the heads of certain players and paid to injure other players with terms like "cart offs" being used as evidence of a system that didn't exist. There was no evidence of this. Later, and as Tagliabue found in the evidence, there was only a "performance pool" for making legal big hits and big defensive plays. That is not a bounty make. Sorry.
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