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America (Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey) 9 23.08%
Europe (Soccer, Rugby, Tennis, Cricket) 30 76.92%
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post #31 of 48 (permalink) Old 11-18-2012, 08:49 PM
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Re: America vs Europe/Rest of the World

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Baseball is huge in Asia, South America and the Dominican Republic. Basketball is also a very popular sport in China, South America and European countries such as Spain/Lithuania/Italy/etc. Hockey is obviously a tremendous part of Canadian culture, but I'm not well versed in the sport, so I'm not aware of it's international appeal. You saying that they're not played internationally at a high level is an ignorant statement. We may not have any sports that appeal to the masses as much as Soccer, but judging by what you said about international participation in Cricket and Rugby, Basketball and Baseball are easily on the same level as them, if not above. Again, I've got no clue on Hockey, but it has to have internatioal appeal, considering all of the foreign players in the NHL.
Yeah they are played at a high level, I meant on the big scale that cricket & rugby world cups are. I don't doubt the basketball & baseball are popular but they don't have professionals playing in reputable & traditional competitions world & continent wide like cricket & rugby. Do basketball & baseball have major world national competitions? If they do they're certainly not on the same scale. Simply because those sports aren't as popular in those countries as others.

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They are also older sports, and require less equipment, thus, less money. Many countries cannot afford American Football equipment. Same goes for hockey, and additionally not everyone has access to ice in order to play hockey.

Soccer football requires nothing more than a ball. Same goes for Rugby.


No, and I gave some reasons for that. The rest of the world can afford to play soccer. Most of them cannot afford all the required equipment for American Football. That's a major, major, reason. So I guess European Sports are cheaper to play, thus, better? Hockey is actually played by many countries throughout the world. The simple problem is that many countries such as all of Africa, South America, and many places in Asia, have warmer climates. Hockey is not terribly viable, and like football, the sport is rather expensive to get equipment and facilities for to play in.

American Football is the greatest sport on the planet IMO. I think if the rest of the world had A) the money to finance it, B) Their populations had access to sufficient equipment to work out & bulk up to be efficient at the sport that you might see a new favorite sport of the world.

American soccer/world football might be the most played, but I do not think it is the best.
Yeah, no one outside of America can afford helmets & pads etc. Do you seriously believe that? Do you have any idea how much money goes into sport in this country at professional & grass root level? Parents also spend a lot on their kids too for them to be involved with their kit & equipment.

Football requires other equipment other than a ball ffs, as do other sports. We don't magic posts etc from thin air. To say that money is the reason American Football may become the most popular sport in the world is just ridiculous but not surprising since it's your clear opinion as stated it's the best sport in the world. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, of course they are.

The facts don't lie however. The rest of the world disagrees. I just didn't know it was because only America is able to afford the equipment to play it.
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No doubt in my mind, Rest of the world sports are the more appealing. I've tried many a time to watch American sports, but they just can't hold my attention.
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Im someone who loves all sports and like 2 of the main sports in america: American Football and Basketball. Saying that its got to be European sports for me in particular rugby and football, 2 sports ive played and follow a lot closer than i follow american sports

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Re: America vs Europe/Rest of the World

Nige you misunderstand what I think Freeloader is saying. He's not saying everyone can't afford the equipment, but a lot can't. Obviously many people in Europe can afford it, they just don't give a fuck about it. There a lot of impoverished nations/3rd world countries that seriously can't afford the equipment. It costs decent money to equip an American football team. The money they do have is just simply better spent on other stuff. You need a ball and a field with goal posts for soccer. That's it. I have to think there are public soccer fields the world over, even in 3rd world countries.

So yeah, a sport that has less costly equipment will be more accessible than one that uses a lot of it.

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They are also older sports, and require less equipment, thus, less money. Many countries cannot afford American Football equipment. Same goes for hockey, and additionally not everyone has access to ice in order to play hockey.

Soccer football requires nothing more than a ball. Same goes for Rugby.




No, and I gave some reasons for that. The rest of the world can afford to play soccer. Most of them cannot afford all the required equipment for American Football. That's a major, major, reason. So I guess European Sports are cheaper to play, thus, better? Hockey is actually played by many countries throughout the world. The simple problem is that many countries such as all of Africa, South America, and many places in Asia, have warmer climates. Hockey is not terribly viable, and like football, the sport is rather expensive to get equipment and facilities for to play in.

American Football is the greatest sport on the planet IMO. I think if the rest of the world had A) the money to finance it, B) Their populations had access to sufficient equipment to work out & bulk up to be efficient at the sport that you might see a new favorite sport of the world.

American soccer/world football might be the most played, but I do not think it is the best.
Very good points and I have to agree with you on all of them! I live in England and I've sort of just gotten my friends into American Football and I actually HAVE an american football, and we really wanna try it out and play it properly, and this comes to your point about the equipment as we don't want to risk injury against eachother doing tackles like we want. Rugby easy to play with eachother since the tackles aren't THAT aggressive, but a very good point made about not affording equipment as that's the only thing that is stopping us from playing it properly over here!



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Nige you misunderstand what I think Freeloader is saying. He's not saying everyone can't afford the equipment, but a lot can't. Obviously many people in Europe can afford it, they just don't give a fuck about it. There a lot of impoverished nations/3rd world countries that seriously can't afford the equipment. It costs decent money to equip an American football team. The money they do have is just simply better spent on other stuff. You need a ball and a field with goal posts for soccer. That's it. I have to think there are public soccer fields the world over, even in 3rd world countries.

So yeah, a sport that has less costly equipment will be more accessible than one that uses a lot of it.
What's the difference between a soccer field and a football field?

Essentially they're both grass with posts & markings. You need a ball for both and off you go. The only other thing Americans need is helmets & body pads which shouldn't be that much more expensive. Are American Football posts & field markings so expensive? Come on.

Funding a soccer team is expensive too with all the training equipment too. You just don't see it. The money that goes into training equipment is very expensive. There's a lot of equipment you need. If you saw the cost of training equipment & facilities you would be shocked to the core.

In general though you can play both kinds of football on any old field with a ball. The only difference is the posts & helmets/pads. That's it. There are American Football teams over here but it's just not that popular compared to other sports. In some cases some less well off families won't be able to afford it but the same goes for other sports also with costs of boots, pads, kits etc. The cost issue affects all sports at a grass roots level.

Edit: Just remembered that there are plenty of rugby fields the world over that have essentially the same posts. That wouldn't stop American Football fans playing on there. It doesn't stop us playing Australian footy whose posts are different and we play with two less.

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fuck posts.

JUMPERS FOR GOALPOSTS.

little bit of my childhood just came flooding back.

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Basketball , Ice Hockey are both massive sports in the rest of the world. ITs pretty much only the UK that sucks at these...

So the only two real american sports are American football and Baseball. Anything that doesnt involve englishmen is always a winner. The cards 6-0 down to win 9-7 is by far the greatest baseball game i have ever seen.

American football will only get more popular now its finally on sky sports os can actually be seen easily in europe.

Nothing will ever catch football as a viewer sport though.

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Re: America vs Europe/Rest of the World

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What's the difference between a soccer field and a football field?

Essentially they're both grass with posts & markings. You need a ball for both and off you go. The only other thing Americans need is helmets & body pads which shouldn't be that much more expensive. Are American Football posts & field markings so expensive? Come on.

Funding a soccer team is expensive too with all the training equipment too. You just don't see it. The money that goes into training equipment is very expensive. There's a lot of equipment you need. If you saw the cost of training equipment & facilities you would be shocked to the core.

In general though you can play both kinds of football on any old field with a ball. The only difference is the posts & helmets/pads. That's it. There are American Football teams over here but it's just not that popular compared to other sports. In some cases some less well off families won't be able to afford it but the same goes for other sports also with costs of boots, pads, kits etc. The cost issue affects all sports at a grass roots level.

Edit: Just remembered that there are plenty of rugby fields the world over that have essentially the same posts. That wouldn't stop American Football fans playing on there. It doesn't stop us playing Australian footy whose posts are different and we play with two less.
"The only difference is the posts and helmets/pads." Again, equipment that isn't cheap. And again we're NOT talking about Europe as much as we're talking about 3rd world countries. There is training equipment for American football as well. This is in addition to the mandatory shoulder pads, helmet, and leg pads.

This is really simple. If you need more stuff, then it costs more money. Why bother when there is already a less expensive, more popular option that is totally ingrained in the culture? LOL Pretty obvious actually.

In our poor areas in the US, the equipment had to be donated. Really all equipment is donated by various people that encourage the sport. That's how cost prohibitive the sport is. The only thing I ever bought as a player were cleats and a mouthpiece (I live in Texas though where football is religion). But if I had to pay a few hundred of dollars to play the game...fuck that...I might have never played. Certainly poor families can't afford this cost. Fortunately in the US, they don't have to, but the reason they don't have to is because the game is extremely popular. This isn't the case in pretty much every other part of the world.

So yeah while the cost of equipment is a pretty good factor, no one said it's the only factor. To me it's pretty obvious it's about which sport each culture embraces. You guys love soccer. We don't. (and vice versa with exceptions on both sides obviously) Cost compounds this.

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Impossible to pick a winner in this poll.

To each their own.
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