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2012-13 English Premier League/Cups Thread - GAME OVER YEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!

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Old thread got too big. Leave the memories alone.

I think MAZACAR deserve to feature in the first post :mata :hazard :bosscar2

:rvp and :javy for carrying United.

:dzeko for saving City.

:suarez1 for just being Suarez.

And finally some BRAVE lads :hesk2 :barry (We need some current BRAVE VILLA smilies)

Let's see if we can kill this thread before the end of the season.
 
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So my mind is currently scrambled from that episode of Raw but reading this just made things all good again. Please be the truth.
I just watched it too. And at the risk of coming across like :terry I'm just going to say that it was cool how Yaya Toure debuted :side:
 
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Found this online



Sir Alex Ferguson, manager of iconic Manchester United, is arguably the most successful manager in the history of professional soccer. So why not write a Harvard Business School (HBS) case on his leadership style?

“It’s just a dream to be able to understand the drivers of his success,” said HBS Professor Anita Elberse of the source of her inspiration. The case was fascinating, and then came the visit.

One day earlier this fall, Ferguson arrived at HBS to help teach the class. Ferguson has led Manchester United — one of the world’s biggest sports franchises — for the past 26 years. Last year, Elberse and case study co-author Tom Dye traveled to Manchester, England, to see Ferguson in action. They conducted comprehensive interviews and meetings with the Scottish manager, past and present players, and club staff members.

Their findings offer fresh insights into Ferguson’s storied career and his approach to leadership, particularly his ability to foster a culture of success and dedication throughout the organization, from the team’s elite players to the workers who take care of Manchester United’s famous stadium and field.
“If someone knocks on his door and they have a problem, the first thing he does is turn the chair around and say, ‘Sit down, let’s talk,’ ” Ferguson’s longtime secretary Lyn Laffin says in the case.

In addition to using their detailed research to outline many of Ferguson’s core philosophies, the case’s authors went a step further. Once their work was complete, Elberse and Dye invited Ferguson to Harvard.
“I can try to capture his thinking in a case, but that is only words on paper,” said Elberse, who frequently uses examples from the media, entertainment, and sports industries as the basis for her case studies. “To have him there, and for students to be able to see him in action, see how he addresses a group, and see snippets of his personality, there’s no replacement for that live experience.''
“When you’re approached by an institution like Harvard, you know you are dealing with top quality,” said Ferguson. “I had to consider that I was opening myself up to something I’ve never done before. But at this stage of my life, I felt that if I’m helping young people progress through their own routes to management, then ultimately that was an important and compelling factor for me.”

The Ferguson report differs from many typical HBS cases that analyze a particular scenario faced by an organization, or a key decision made by a company’s director or chief executive, explained Elberse. Instead, it explores Ferguson’s body of work, his leadership skills, and the keys to his sustained success.

“I wanted students to examine his philosophy to the management of the club,” she said, “season by season, and game by game, so that they could distill the major lessons and his formula for success.”
One key lesson is Ferguson’s fine-tuned ability to relate to people. He connects with his wealthy players, but he brings that intense engagement to all of his interactions. That was true during his visit to Harvard. Standing in the middle of a room in Aldrich Hall, he expanded on students’ observations about the case, answered a storm of questions, and even had a little fun with a Bayern Munich supporter in attendance. (Manchester United famously beat the German soccer club in 1999, coming back from a goal down to win 2-1 in extra time during the UEFA Champions League final.)

In a departure from the standard HBS class that typically allots guests 20 minutes, Elberse turned over half of two 80-minute discussions to Ferguson to maximize his time. Many students arrived for the crowded classes wearing Manchester United jerseys. They also came prepared.
“The whole atmosphere was professional,” said Ferguson. “It was clear that they had done their homework. That was the important thing. They had properly read the case study and supplemented that with their own opinions and research. … That gave me a certain assurance that I had made the right decision to go ahead with the case.”
“The process was excellent, enjoyable, and comfortable,” he added. “I never felt intimidated in any way, and I never felt reluctant to be anything other than completely open.”
The wide-ranging discussions touched on such topics as Ferguson’s expansion of the club’s youth system, his willingness to invest in top talent from other clubs, and the nature of his management style.

HBS student and soccer enthusiast Folafolu Folowosele was thrilled to interact with and learn from a legend. Hearing how Ferguson “motivates his players, creates a culture around his team, and gets key influencers within his team to be the ones to drive that winning culture through … these are the lessons we can actually take in our business careers going forward,” Folowosele said.
But the students weren’t the only ones learning lessons. Ferguson said it was enlightening to hear his career discussed and explored in such depth and detail.
“The part of the discussion from which I learned the most about myself was when they were discussing the balance between ‘fear’ and ‘love’ in my approach to managing people. If you look at my history, there’s all this hype about hair dryers and anger and so on. But the students acknowledged another side to it, which is more apt in terms of how I have fostered relations with people and developed the team over the years. The reality is not always how the press portray it. I felt the students were quite accurate in terms of how they analyzed this aspect, questioning and recognizing this important dynamic of management.
“The key element for me was Anita, and how she controlled the room. I am always talking about ‘control.’ She controlled that room. She was the boss. I thought that was very impressive, plus the fact that she has a certain humility about her; she’s quite down-to-earth.”

Ferguson also connected with other students and soccer fans while at Harvard. During a visit in September to prepare for the HBS case discussions, he met with Harvard men’s head soccer coach Carl Junot.
“He was entertaining and engaging,” recalled Junot, who said Ferguson put him immediately at ease and offered to meet the team. “It was so unanticipated. They were expecting me to come in and give them the practice plan as usual, and in walks Alex Ferguson. They were blown away.”
In October, Ferguson set aside time for members of the HBS soccer club. Similar to Elberse’s classes earlier in the day, the more informal afternoon gathering was filled with students sporting Manchester United shirts. Club president John Hillman wore a jersey with the name Giggs printed on the back in honor of the team’s famous Welsh star.

Like Junot, Hillman was struck by Ferguson’s easygoing style. “He was amazingly laid-back and down-to-earth. … I could just tell that he was being very thoughtful, and was very interested in what I was saying.”
One of guests sitting in on a case discussion with Ferguson was a soccer star herself. Heather O’Reilly, a key player on the U.S. women’s soccer team that won the gold medal during the London Olympics and a longtime Manchester United fan, called the experience “an honor.”
“He’s the best of the best,” said O’Reilly.
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/stor...ign=socialflow
 
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Does it make Liverpool look daft? Yes. But sometimes you have to swallow your pride, especially if you think this kid has potential. OX costed a lot more than £6m and he was from League 1. Ince has talent, so you're not going to get him for nothing, no matter how much you sold him for.

As for Sturridge. England international. Young. Pottential. Scores goals when he gets a run in the team. Look at his run at Bolton when he was the centre forward. If you're just getting him for £12m then you're very lucky.

This is not as bad as a deal you're trying to make out.
 
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The 18-year-old (Raheem Sterling) is expected to sign the five-year deal before Christmas.
Sterling, who is currently on a £2,000-per week youth contract, will see his earnings initially jump to around £30,000 per week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20792252


Raheem at his best.
Not sure if I should fap to Sterling's missus or to the story of him signing a new contract :kobe4
 
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The ref gave it without the benefit of numerous replays and various angles to see it at. (the wilshere booking)

Given that he got the ball, before the man, what would you constitute a good tackle to actually be if you think that's a foul?
 
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I typed a message earlier giving my thoughts on the Swansea/United match but the damn computer deleted my text by refreshing the web page. So I'll write my thoughts once again.

I actually thought we played well in stages, especially in terms of moving the ball quicker and creating chances. However, no one was clinical in front of goal to finish those chances. Chicharito showed energy when he came on but was very sloppy on the ball or when given the opportunity to score; Van Persie albeit, holding the ball well and showing flashes of brilliance didn't really create a chance and Rooney was god awful. Rooney when he plays like he did today doesn't deserve to play in the Premier League. He's that bad when putting in terrible performances like today.

Valencia is also the latest culprit that is having a real nightmare this season in regards to form. He has lost all his confidence, can no longer beat his man, doesn't try to beat his man and his crosses have been dreadful. Hopefully he gets a good kick up the ass as this isn't doing our wide play any good. I'd like to see Nani make a return (selling him in January would be the wrong decision) or give Rafael a more advanced position when he's fit again. Young however, looked pretty good throughout.

Jones was alright and Evra showed once again what a defensive liability he truly is. A complete joke of a defender. Sure, he scored the goal but other than a few attacks down the left what did he do? Gave the ball away constantly, lost his man several times, left acres of space for Swansea to attack and did that fucking irritating jogging back routine. Give Buttner a start. I'd also drop Rooney if his form continues like this and give Welbeck or Kagawa a start when he returns.

People were slating Vidic in the first half but second half was a completely different story as he was an absolute BOSS. His interceptions, his headed clearances... he looked so confident and calm in defence. Hopefully he maintains this form as it will take him a while to get with the pace of the game again but today, he handled Michu brilliantly. Evans was also a rock at the back today.

Carrick was the Man of the Match, some of his long balls were sublime but unfortunately, no one could finish the chances he created off. He also made some good interceptions and looked so composed on the ball. Cleverley also showed a lot of energy and had a decent game overall.

Giggs looked really good when he came on and played on the left wing. Scholes was static and slowed the game down again. Shouldn't have come on and Cleverley shouldn't have gone off.

All in all, we shouldn't have dropped 2 points as we were the better team but I'm fine with a point as Swansea away is always a tough fixture. As long as we continue this fast, fluid football and we're much more clinical in front of goal we'll be fine.
 
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8-0 :stern

Best result ever considering I'm a Liverpool fan living with Villa fans.. After a week of jokes from last week, it's time to get back at them.. Christmas just came early for me!
LOL relying on other fans and teams to gloat, oh how the mighty have fallen.
 
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