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**WOOLCOCK** · 02-05-2013, 10:06 AM

Yeah the girl can give as much consent as she pleases, hell she can be the one trying to initiate sex. Minute someone past the age of legal consent engages with a minor they've breached the law because the law doesn't allow minors to give 'valid' consent due to their age and supposed naivety. I imagine the wording of the law is similar in Holland as it is in the UK, in which case her giving consent really doesn't benefit Fer in anyway. As an adult in the eyes of the law he's tasked with greater responsibility and awareness of his actions and therefore engaging in sex, even if consensual on the minor's part represents a breach of trust according to the law.

WWE_TNA · 02-05-2013, 10:13 AM

Law or not it would be fucked up if it was legal, even 16 seems wrong to me and i'm only 23. 16 is legal right?

nothing below 18/19 for me.

Issues_Sunshyne · 02-05-2013, 10:14 AM

Are there any links for this? I don't doubt whoever said it hasn't heard it, but can't really find anything online and don't really want to go googling the content of the story if you get me!

danny_boy · 02-05-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Issues_Sunshyne

Are there any links for this? I don't doubt whoever said it hasn't heard it, but can't really find anything online and don't really want to go googling the content of the story if you get me!

Just searched Leroy Fer on Google News & NewsNow but nothing, also checked his wiki and it says nothing

Find it hard to believe that it's all over the media in the Netherlands but not a single British Medial Outlet has reported it yet, net even taKSPORT or goal.com

**WOOLCOCK** · 02-05-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WWE_TNA

Law or not it would be fucked up if it was legal, even 16 seems wrong to me and i'm only 23. 16 is legal right?

nothing below 18/19 for me.

16 is legal in the UK. Sex with anyone 13 or under is treated as rape since the law stipulates they can't give legal consent, thus anyone who engages in sex with someone aged 13 or under will have 'raped' the child regardless of consent. 14-15 forms closer to unlawful sexual conduct since the law still recognises it as illegal and in breach of the law, but the issue relating to valid consent differs here on account of a typical 15 year old being reasonably expected to be more aware and able to give something amounting greater to consent than a 12 year old. Its still in breach of the law, but the actual offence would differ and come under statutory rape.

This also applies if two children under the age of 16 have sex. Its still in breach of the law albeit a prosecution would be highly unlikely unless it was an actual rape without consent. If both consent then a prosecution would be unlikely since they're not treated as being in a position of trust/responsibility not to act.

Don't even get started on the defence of mistaken identity. The law basically imposes you have to review a case based on all evidence beforehand and take into account the circumstance: e.g drinking in a nightclub with someone underage as opposed to meeting them elsewhere where their age might be more apparent.

**AlexHumph** · 02-05-2013, 10:27 AM

brazil have been training at Barnet's training ground

Issues_Sunshyne · 02-05-2013, 10:28 AM

I've got so far through searching for Leroy Fer on Twitter that a few posts say his name, Someone called Johan Derksen and the numbers 13 or 18. Johan Derksen is a journalist so maybe he did say it. It doesn't seem like it's huge news though, not what you'd expect, unless it was broken the moment the lad posted it here.

JEKingOfKings · 02-05-2013, 10:34 AM

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brazil have been training at Barnet's training ground

Times are hard.

Cookie Monster · 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM

You'd think Brazil would train at Spurs' new training ground considering it is the best in England. Strange decision!

danny_boy · 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM

Found an article in Dutch so used Google Translate to translate it so not going to be the most accurate translation but you get the general jist

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"Leroy Fer did it with 13-year-old girl; transfer thereby ricocheted '

Leroy Fer shared the bed with a 13-year-old girl when he was eighteen years old. That said Johan Derksen in the television VI.

A year ago only did the girl return to the FC Twente football player, now 23 years old. A week earlier reported that Fer Derksen already joined the court must register for a 'serious incident'. His transfer to Everton would result at the last moment ricocheted.