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**Kiz** · 02-01-2013, 06:17 AM

it's also that barca and madrid have the very best in spanish talent playing for them. it's not like xavi or alonso are unfairly in the national team or anything.

**Seabs** · 02-01-2013, 06:27 AM

Not really the same. Spain have the best squad in the world that shouldn't be changed. England are just picking the same average players all the time. Just look at the players who struggle to even make a Spain squad. Guys like fucking Soldado. Pretty sure their second choice XI would beat most international teams. Heck their U-21 would give most a run for their money too. Incredible depth and they just keep churning more and more out.

Grrrr

**Kiz** · 02-01-2013, 06:29 AM

bobby says no vinny for 3 weeks. sigh

fire head medico from last season, suffer a boatload more injures. ha

**Nige™** · 02-01-2013, 06:32 AM

Naughty little chap Odemwingie's been sent home from school!

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Barry wont get in ahead of them. Different positions. That was my point.

Oh reet, fair enough. Me read it wrong.

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Lambert deserved a call up for a friendly. Fuck has Sturridge done lately?

I'd liked to have seen Lambert or Le Fondre given a chance. Lambert's age might work against him.

**Seabs** · 02-01-2013, 06:34 AM

It'd be 9 weeks if he was at Utd.

Odemwingie sent home from training Hasn't he just had a kid? Worse times to get exiled.

**Kiz** · 02-01-2013, 06:36 AM

i dont understand the england selection. didnt woy make a big deal about youth? why is one of the cb's a 30 odd year old who isn't first choice? 3 aging centre mids? it's a friendly, play some youth.

not that we can speak. lucas neill still a pivotal part of our defence, even when he lost all footballing ability in around 2006.

**Seabs** · 02-01-2013, 06:38 AM

PR activity. Wasn't popular when he came in, had to say something to get people on side. Internationals are like a week off for me these days though so whatever.

**Kiz** · 02-01-2013, 06:40 AM

Vincent Kompany: Since Aug 2009, Man City have conceded an average of 0.83 goals per PL game with Kompany starting, compared to 1.24 without

wouldnt mind seeing points compared to him playing/not playing. doubt it would be as good as the yaya one (average more when he's not playing than when he is)

**Joel** · 02-01-2013, 07:07 AM

I don't really think you should just throw in youth players because it's a friendly. Friendlies should be used to build on team chemistry.

What I think was after the Euros a team with an average age of 26-27 should have been designed and they should have sticked to it, whilst adding one or two (to the squad, not necessarily starting line up) who would be in good form every time a friendly comes up. It's whay the Germans did after their Euro 08 defeat. They blew up the team and brought the likes of Ozil, Khedira nand Boateng in. Meuller was in form, so they allowed him in the line up as a wild card if you like.

The top nations keep the same teams. They have kept the same team (the right team) for a while now and they play well because the chemistry is there. Germany slowly eases new players like Reus into the starting line up rather than just chucking him in. There's a process to be followed.

**Seabs** · 02-01-2013, 07:15 AM

I'd normally agree but our current crop isn't producing anything and we've got a potentially strong group of players coming through who should be gaining experience over the likes of Lampard playing a few extra international games. Start building a team for 2016 and we might do well there. World Cup is a lost cause no matter what direction they go in so they may as well use it as a valuable learning curve for the new group of players breaking through. Just being in the squad for training is good experience. England never seem to have a long term goal or direction it seems.