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Old 01-31-2013, 06:49 AM   #8231 (permalink)
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OVERCOOKEDANDRE on his rampant run to bag every premier league keeper besides ruddy

de bruyne is far superior to marin btw.
That's simply not true, I like Cech (when he's on it), Vorm and Mignolet as well

Hart's pretty decent when he's at the top of his game, same goes for Reina although the last time that happened was YEARS ago. EDIT- Tim Krul also has a lot of potential.

I don't think that Ruddy is amazing, just a really solid goalkeeper that performs all of the basics correctly, aka controls his box, distributes the ball well and holds onto lots of shots/crosses. He's not the most agile and that's certainly a weakness of his.

The standard of goalkeeping is generally mediocre in the prem these days. When people like Al Habsi are being touted as quality keepers, anyway.

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Old 01-31-2013, 07:11 AM   #8232 (permalink)
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Wish Ruddy would do the basics for us, B.A.

He was fucking useless. When you're behind Iain Turner in the pecking order, you know you're not making it at a club.
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Wish Ruddy would do the basics for us, B.A.

He was fucking useless. When you're behind Iain Turner in the pecking order, you know you're not making it at a club.
He played one game for you and kept a clean sheet, lol. It's a bit harsh to slag him for not making it as a 19-23 year old signed from a fourth tier/non-league team. He was also forvever out on loan in order to develop so it's hardly as if he was able to become serious competition.

To be fair he was awful when he first signed for us in 2010, massively overweight and couldn't catch a cold. It took him about six months to turn it around but he has been excellent eversince then. He just needed to become settled at a club where he could learn his trade, so essentially he was just a typical young keeper. Going out on loan to a million different clubs doesn't do anybody any good.

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God damn it. I read that and nearly jumped out my chair.
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First of all, evidence that he had the second worst saves to shots percentage in the league:
You've already proven you don't understand football by thinking that statistic is in any way meaningful.
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He played one game for you and kept a clean sheet, lol. It's a bit harsh to slag him for not making it as a 19-23 year old signed from a fourth tier/non-league team. He was also forvever out on loan in order to develop so it's hardly as if he was able to become serious competition.

To be fair he was awful when he first signed for us in 2010, massively overweight and couldn't catch a cold. It took him about six months to turn it around but he has been excellent eversince then. He just needed to become settled at a club where he could learn his trade, so essentially he was just a typical young keeper. Going out on loan to a million different clubs doesn't do anybody any good.
I used to watch a ton of our reserves and will keep an eye out when we have somebody exciting in there now.

He just came across as clumsy. I agree with your point about being loaned out, it was either that or play 4th in command and let him stay on the reserves. He played for 8 clubs before he was 21

In hindsight it wasn't the best decision, considering Turner was awful, Wright was worse, Martyn was on the verge of retiring and our future keepers we brought in during his time here was just embarrassing and Moyes did call him the future England goalkeeper. Having him compete with Howard would be perfect, Mucha is just the weird kid you stick in goal because he will throw himself at everything openly but wont save anything. Everton is the place where goalkeepers go to kill their careers. (barring Southall, Martyn and Howard most of the time)
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You've already proven you don't understand football by thinking that statistic is in any way meaningful.
...and by continually repeating this statement you've proven that you're an utter tool, although the new and valuable insight that you offer to a football discussion could probably be written on the back of a stamp, so this shouldn't be a suprise to anybody.

He saves less far less shots than others, takes less crosses than many and makes far more mistakes than plenty. Video evidence is there to prove this, we've all seen the mistakes that he makes on a regular basis. Stats by themselves are useless that's for certain, but they've only gone and confirmed what I already knew.

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I used to watch a ton of our reserves and will keep an eye out when we have somebody exciting in there now.

He just came across as clumsy. I agree with your point about being loaned out, it was either that or play 4th in command and let him stay on the reserves. He played for 8 clubs before he was 21

In hindsight it wasn't the best decision, considering Turner was awful, Wright was worse, Martyn was on the verge of retiring and our future keepers we brought in during his time here was just embarrassing and Moyes did call him the future England goalkeeper. Having him compete with Howard would be perfect, Mucha is just the weird kid you stick in goal because he will throw himself at everything openly but wont save anything. Everton is the place where goalkeepers go to kill their careers. (barring Southall, Martyn and Howard most of the time)
Like I said before, he was really bad when he first signed so it doesn't suprise me that he was like that at all. It just made me laugh when you said that he was useless for you since he was barely ever at Everton and only played one proper game

I don't think that he would have developed so well if he had stayed at Goodison, playing regularly in a settled environment is the best thing for a young keeper, that's why I think Jack Butland is sensible for deciding to either stay at Brum or move to a club where he can get regular games (unless he has moved to Chelsea or another team like that now )

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Where has the international thread gone to?

England squad to face Brazi:

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Goalkeepers: Butland (Birmingham), Hart (Manchester City). Defenders: Baines (Everton), Cahill (Chelsea), Cole (Chelsea), Jagielka (Everton), Johnson (Liverpool), Lescott (Manchester City), Smalling (Manchester United), Walker (Tottenham). Midfielders: Carrick (Manchester United), Cleverley (Manchester United), Gerrard (Liverpool), Lampard (Chelsea), Lennon (Tottenham), Milner (Manchester City), Osman (Everton), Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Walcott (Arsenal), Wilshere (Arsenal). Forwards: Defoe (Tottenham), Rooney (Manchester United), Sturridge (Liverpool), Welbeck (Manchester United).
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Still hope Brazil ruin England though.

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Believe me, that one game he was dodgy from what I recall. Flapped a lot. It was a comedy show all round. Turner got sent off after 9 minutes and then he came in and Blackburn were gash. Dull 1-0 victory for us.

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Has the Ox even done anything of note recently to earn a place in that squad?

Baines should start over for this game anyway, deserves it.
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